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Force Awakens Discussion Thread [spoilers]

SPOILERS! SPOILERS! SPOILERS! SPOILERS! SPOILERS! SPOILERS! Discuss your thoughts of the new movie. Spoilers are welcome here.

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  • Kylo won't be a true Sith warrior until he learns to use his anger to fuel himself rather than let it out at some innocent room.

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    • Seriously does anyone wonder hoe rey flew the millenium falcon all she knew how to do was ride a speeder

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      • No one really like thought about the republic blowing up but for like 5 seconds. Like 5 planets just blew up

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      • "How do blow it up? There is always a way to do that."- Han Solo. This gets best quote. I was a little disappointed with the plot. I know they were trying to introduce characters, but blow up the big laser thing, go to the planet, and save the base is a little old.

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      • Ok is Luke Rey's father? Because in her flashback she had that hand on her shoulder.

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        • Is Rey Lukes daughter?

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        • I just hope that Finn and Rey are related so we get the same incest vide from the old movies.

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          • Just got back. Still trying to absorb it all. Dunno where to start. [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/181990350/0/0]Have a look at my thread,[/url] or just ask me questions. Talk to me!

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            • Can anyone tell me what the greatest feet using the force was? Like destroying a building or something. I think it would be awesome to see Kylo Ren get all angry and start screaming and he loses control so much that he just starts bringing down whatever is around him with the force.

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              • I think it's funny how Kylo Ren just gets pissed and starts swinging his lightsaber at shit. Made even funnier by the fact that I don't think that was what Abrams was going for

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                • Kylo(correct me if I'm wrong) is just a fan girl of Dank Vandur and has anger issues.

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                  • Just a bit of information. In the official novelization of TFA (which is canon), Supreme Leader Snoke says he witnessed the rise of the Galactic Empire. With the whole Rule of Two (which is also canon) do you think Sidious would have allowed some other dark side (possibly Sith) master to hang around? Unless of course, he thought he had killed him already... Supreme Leader Snoke also says that Kylo Ren is the most promising student he has ever trained...meaning he's got experience training members of the dark side (possibly a Sith master) and alluding to the fact that Kylo Ren may become a bad ass in the future.

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                    • [spoiler]Did anyone else hear Yoda and Obi-Wan's voice when Rey grabbed Anakin's lightsaber?!?![/spoiler]

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                      • Edited by Cayde: 12/21/2015 8:25:15 PM
                        Even with the great plot, pacing, acting, and dialogue within SW7, there are these problems in the movie that I have noticed: + Wasted or sub-par character potential - Snoke (revealed too early) - Kylo Ren (revealed to be a non-pubescent albino) - Captain Phasma (for obvious reasons) - Finn (he is pictured as a wimp and a sidekick throughout the whole movie, and is focused much less on than Rey so that feminists won't flip over) + Trying too hard to satisfy newer or today's audiences. - The whole thing between Rey and Finn (obviously an appeal to biracial relationships; not that it's wrong, it's just forced (pun)). - The fact that Rey is the Jedi in the movie (so that feminists like Princess Anomaly won't go apesh*t. Also, we're presented with the fact that she's strong with the force way too abruptly). - Kylo Ren (he is a non-pubescent albino to make adolescent narrow-minded girls say "Omg, like, he is soooo cute!"). + It is almost a copy & paste of the plot of episode 4 (with a "star-killer" and everything; the name of the new Death Star was pretty stupid). + The rest of the plot in the next two movies will be very easily predictable (this will take too long to explain). + The fan canon (Luke secretly becoming a sith) will probably not become official canon, although it would make [i]a lot[/i] more sense (Abrams did this probably to help the less mentally capable audience understand the canon). + A [i]big[/i] part of the conflict could have been avoided if the Resistance used only the portion of BB-8's map to find Luke; since both sides have very advanced mapping technology, they could have predicted his location just by the names and alignments of the planetary systems on BB-8's map, leaving a massive plot hole). Overall, I would give SW7 a solid 8/10; I don't mean to sound like the whiny Angry Joe who gave Fallout 4 a 7.5-8/10. It is a great movie, don't get me wrong, and I found it a hell of a lot of fun to watch. However, the flaws mentioned above made it unable to match up to episodes 4, 5, and 6; but, it is clearly better than the prequels. Despite the fact that it is a fantastic movie, it definitely didn't come close to living up to the hype, which was probably unmatchable in the first place. Do I recommend watching it, though? It is not a [i]recommendation[/i]; it is a [i]must[/i], and a good return to the franchise (despite that it's now Disney). :) [copied & pasted from Ocean_Jedi's response to Jaraghan.] Tell me what you guys think. ;) [b]Edit 1:[/b] the + is for one thing, and a - is under it.

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                        • The leading theory is [spoiler]that Rey is Luke's daughter. When Luke was training a new generation of younglings (Ben Solo and Rey Skywalker were both in that group(and possibly Finn and Poe who both seem to be force sensitive)) then Ben Solo betrayed them and turned to the dark side. It would make sense that his lightsaber skills weren't the best (because he is only partially trained (hence why supreme leader snoke commands that they bring Kylo Ren in to finish his training at the end of the movie)) after that Luke drops his daughter off to be protected on Jakku (possibly by that old man that had part of the map to find him (the other half was hidden in R2)) and because of his failure he goes into exile. The lightsaber (which has always been in the hands of a Skywalker (Anakin->Luke-> Rey?)) calls out to Rey and when she touches it she has, what many believe are flashbacks of repressed memories from her previous training and connection with the force. This is why she picks up on it so fast and can mind control stormtroopers, wield a lightsaber, and force pull the lightsaber... [/spoiler] Of course this is all speculation and reading between the lines of what was said an done in Episode VII. Much of it is still theory and truth be told we won't know what it all means until 2017.

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                          • The storm trooper Rey mind tricks is played by Daniel Craig.

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                            • Am I the only one that liked the way Kylo Ren looks (no helmet on)? I'll be honest I was kind of unsure about it when he first took of the helmet but I think it grew on me. Assuming this guy is gonna be Kylo Ren permanently from now on, imagine him 6 or so years from now when episode 9 is out and he's older and more dangerous looking. I'm really excited.

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                              • Anyone notice that for StarKiller base, they reused the Celestial Nighcloak, the Galaxy Gun, the Sun Crusher, and the name of Vader's apprentice?

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                              • I really liked the movie. I really liked the prequels. There is really nothing wrong with either of them. The main complaint I hear is the disappointment of Kylo Ren. However, no one said that he was going to be anything special. His character was built up in our heads. We can't blame the movie for our own assumptions.

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                              • is the guy in the hologram the new sith lord? i dont read books or anything.

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                                • I have this theory that Rey was one of Luke's padewan (and daughter) and after Kylo Ren went on his rampage that took all of Luke's students, Luke force memory wiped Rey and dropped her of Jakku. This would explain why the Force was some easy for her to "pick up" and almost immediately understand how to use Jedi Mind tricks.

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                                    Thee starkiller base [spoiler]taking solar power to a whole new level :)[/spoiler]

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                                    • Who was the old man in the beginning? The man that had the map information

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                                      • During the ren's interrogation of rey he said rey dreams of an ocean with an island At the end of the movie there is an ocean with and island dun dun DUNN Oh and ren saw his dad but that might not mean that rey see's han but rather, Luke. Because of cryptic reasons.

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                                        • I saw the 7:30 premier on Thursday, December 17, and had 6 and 7tg hour finals the next day. My 6th hr is an engineering class and we are all fans. I mentioned I had seen the movie and the almost lynched me to prevent spoilers. It was hilarious.

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