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Seasoned Veterans Guide to Vidmaster Challenge: Endure (Firefight)

Hello, and welcome to Seasoned Veterans' Guide to the Vidmaster Challenge: Endure Achievement for Halo 3: ODST. This thread is presented to you by Seasoned Veterans, and was written by I adJACENt I, and Pope Rex, with additional help from UEG PaniK and LB Terminator. I'd like to begin with a little bit of a background on how we got this achievement, and then end with a guide for you to go out there and get it. [b]NOTE:[/b] If you would like to do this on Alpha Site, please visit mastercmj2003's guide for [url=http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=37241034]that map[/url]. Last night, around 930 PM EST, myself (i adJACENt i) and 3 others (Pope Rex, UEG PaniK, and LB Terminator) started up a round of Firefight on Lost Platoon, on Heroic. 2 hours and 12 minutes later, we had finished the 2nd Wave of the 1st Round of the 5th Set, with [url=http://www.bungie.net/stats/odstg.aspx?player=I%20adJACENt%20I&gameid=5744386]1,434,587 points[/url], and an achievement. Pope Rex has also broken [url=http://www.bungie.net/stats/odstg.aspx?player=Pope%20Rex&gameid=7240450]1.5 million[/url] just this morning. [b][i]We could not have done this without teamwork, and a well-defined role for each of us[/i][/b]. I will explain those roles, and much of our strategy, in the following paragraphs. [quote][/quote] The following text can be found on the Halo Wiki pages dedicated to [url=http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Firefight]Firefight[/url] and the Vidmaster Endure Achievement. [u][b][url=http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Vidmaster_Challenge:_Endure]Vidmaster Achievement: Endure[/url][/b][/u] is an achievement in Halo 3: ODST and one of the Vidmaster Challenges. It is unlocked when you play on Firefight, on any mission, and pass the 4th set (the 12th round and 60th wave) on 4 player Heroic co-op Live. It is worth 25 Gamerpoints. In Firefight, you fight against increasingly difficult waves of Covenant attackers. There are five Waves of reinforcements in a Round and three Rounds in a Set. The Set, Round, and Wave the player is in can be seen at the top left of the screen, with the number of players lives being 7 to share between your squad when Firefight is started. The Set is represented by a number from one to infinity, the Round a circle, going from left to right with the Wave the player is in shown under the Round. At the end of a round there will be a brief pause where the player will be allowed to recollect ammo, and get additional lives. The scores will be kept in the top right of the screen, with the Team score being on the top and the player's individual score below that. Regardless of the difficulty, the Tough Luck skull will be enabled from the start. With each new set, more skulls become enabled, more than one at a time. If one can stay alive, they will be awarded with higher scores and medals. Though each enemy class is worth a base number of points, earning medals can modify the player's tally as they go. Staying on lengthy streak without dying, and points will be augmented by a hefty multiplier. Additionally, once a team has survived a Set, they will go on to the Bonus Round. Because it is only a Bonus Round, any deaths will not be subtracted from the overall point pool. However, since the Iron Skull is activated at the start, one death will cause the Bonus Round to end. The Bonus Round provides players a chance to earn extra lives before the next Set. Exact number of lives per score is unknown to us at this time. I will update this post when we learn more. [quote][/quote] Now, we begin our specific guide to getting this achievement... For this specific achievement, our squad played on Lost Platoon (from the Uplift Reserve mission in Campaign mode). We turned on IWHBYD (for extra dialog) and Grunt Birthday Party (for the lulz, and it helps to verify that you actually killed a Grunt). Looking at the map, the South East side, where the big rocks with all the trees are, will be called the front. The East corner of the map is called the Front Left, the East corner of the map is the Front Right, the North corner of the map is the Back Left, and the West corner of the map is the Back Right. The Phantoms that drop off reinforcements will go to only those four spots. As each Firefight progresses, various difficulty-multiplying skulls come into play. Tough Luck, Catch, and Black Eye activate at the start of Rounds; Tilt, Famine, and Mythic activate at the start of Sets. The longer a Firefight lasts, the more skulls remain active simultaneously, so by the start of Round One of Set Five, all Round and Set skulls are active. The Iron Skull is only active during Bonus Rounds. Here is the skull breakdown for each Round and Set, Round skulls are italicized, Set skulls are bold.: Set 1 Round 1 - [i]Tough Luck[/i] Set 1 Round 2 - [i]Tough Luck, Catch[/i] Set 1 Round 3 - [i]Tough Luck, Catch, Black Eye[/i] Set 2 Round 1 - [i]Tough Luck[/i], [b]Tilt[/b] Set 2 Round 2 - [i]Tough Luck, Catch[/i], [b]Tilt[/b] Set 2 Round 3 - [i]Tough Luck, Catch, Black Eye[/i], [b]Tilt[/b] Set 3 Round 1 - [i]Tough Luck[/i], [b]Tilt, Famine[/b] Set 3 Round 2 - [i]Tough Luck, Catch[/i], [b]Tilt, Famine[/b] Set 3 Round 3 - [i]Tough Luck, Catch, Black eye[/i], [b]Tilt, Famine[/b] Set 4 Round 1 - [i]Tough Luck[/i], [b]Tilt, Famine, Mythic[/b] Set 4 Round 2 - [i]Tough Luck, Catch[/i], [b]Tilt, Famine, Mythic[/b] Set 4 Round 3 - [i]Tough Luck, Catch, Black eye[/i], [b]Tilt, Famine, Mythic[/b] Set 5 and up - [i]Tough Luck, Catch, Black eye[/i], [b]Tilt, Famine, Mythic[/b] The #1 Rule of Firefight: Don't die. The #2 Rule of Firefight: DON'T DIE! I cannot stress that enough. This is not Halo 3 Campaign where you can just run around and AR/Melee everything in site. Every death hurts your team in multiple ways. Besides having one fewer life for the game, you may also lose valuable resources by dying in an area surrounded by the enemy. Losing a Warthog, Laser, or other weapons may prove to be detrimental to your team in later Waves. Speaking of the Hog and Laser, at the start of the game, and every following Set (3 Rounds), you will get a Warthog that spawns at the bottom of the double sets of stairs, in the middle of the map (Bottom Mid, Warthog Spawn), in a large room to the North West. Against the South East wall in this room are two Health Packs. There are also two Health Packs at the top of the double stairs, to either side of them. In a side room on the East side, there will be a Laser that spawns at the beginning of the game and after each Round (5 Waves). You MUST be able to keep your Hog alive, and you MUST be able to reserve your Laser shots. You are given 5 Laser shots each round, and sometimes there are 5 Wraiths (one per Wave) in a Round. Your Hog driver and Gunner will need to take down Choppers from behind, as facing these things head on is pretty much suicide. Do everything in your power to only kill the Brute in the Chopper, and not to actually blow up the Chopper. If able, take each and every Chopper you can into the back or the Hog Room, behind the stairs. Store them for use in later rounds (at one time I think we had about 13 Choppers stored in that room). Communication is also key. Your Laser guy needs to know where the Wraiths are being dropped. Your Hog needs to know where the Choppers and Brute Chieftains are. You need to know when the Buggers are coming, so you can ensure you have an appropriate weapon (Plasma Rifle or SMG work best). The more info being passed around, the better prepared your squad can be. [quote][/quote] For your party of 4, you need to have the following types of personnel... Hog Driver / Warthog Driver; Hog Gunner / Warthog Driver; Laser / Support; Long Range / Support [b][u]Hog Personnel[/b][/u]: Driver - Pope Rex Gunner - UEG PaniK The Hog driver and gunners will run the hog as much as possible, taking care to not get it destroyed. During Rounds where the Black Eye skull is turned on (where you have to melee to regain Stamina), you do not want to be in the Hog. One or both of you may want to utilize your Choppers, if you feel comfortable enough, but if not, stay up top on the building. Since this is such a large map, you will want the enemy to come to you so that you can get some melees in when your Stamina gets low. When the Catch skull is activated (Covenant throw a ton of grenades), you may want to be wary of getting close to Grunts, as they have a tendency to unload 30 Plasma Stickies at the same time. [Edited on 09.23.2009 2:38 PM PDT]
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  • Hi, a good strategy I found useful was for 3 people to go on to the hog in the begining and one person goes for the spartan laser and then goes into the passenger seat...then your gunner and driver go around the whole map shooting and splattering while your take out wraiths while your still in the hog,(EASY POINTS!)But while black eye is activated, I suggest that you get 3 choppers and your warthog parked into where you first spawned,preferably the spawn closest to the hog because there isnt steps to climb up and turn into and such and such.Now spam fire on the entrance.But once the invisible dudes and cheftains start to claim the field, one person goes outside in a chopper and stays close to that area while splattering these annoying foes.OH and the person not in a warthog, get a sniper rifle and carbine, go on a chopper, and follow the warthog, kill what they missed and claim that spot for sniping till its time to move.Almost forgot, Try and slow down while the person is spartan lasering, as he/she will have a hardtime not using the scope, and be moving. [Edited on 09.26.2009 2:17 PM PDT]

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  • This was an awesome guide. Me and 3 friends 2 nights ago were attempting to get Endure. We were playing on Last Exit. It was lagging for a reason we can't explain pretty bad. Even so, we made it to the 5th wave of the 3rd round of the 3rd set. And 2 Honor Guard Brutes with Fuelrods and a Brute Chieftain killed us. We played for 70 mins. I'm definitely gonna use this next time. Good job.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SeasonedVeterans [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] James2553 great guide me and my 3 brothers got 1.4million points on that level but failed to get the achievement when there were two brute cheftians left at the end of set4 round 5 wave 5. So noyed, so we tried again immediately on alpha zone and got it 2 hours 20mins later![/quote] I'll tell you what, Alpha Zone has got to be the easiest way t get this achievement. Use [url=http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=37241034]this guide by mastercmj2003[/url] for that map, and you'll have no problem whatsoever. We got the achievement for two more people last night using Alpha Site, and our fourth wasn't even playing the entire 4th set! It was a low points total (like 738,000), compared to our 3.1 Million on Lost Platoon, but it got the achievement for them.[/quote]=) =) =) If you have any questions, ive been trying to answer peoples questions from all ways of communication (lol here, xbox, facebook, twitter, aim, you name it, its been used, even my cell phone 0.o ). I <3 SeasonedVeterans!

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] James2553 great guide me and my 3 brothers got 1.4million points on that level but failed to get the achievement when there were two brute cheftians left at the end of set4 round 5 wave 5. So noyed, so we tried again immediately on alpha zone and got it 2 hours 20mins later![/quote] I'll tell you what, Alpha Zone has got to be the easiest way t get this achievement. Use [url=http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=37241034]this guide by mastercmj2003[/url] for that map, and you'll have no problem whatsoever. We got the achievement for two more people last night using Alpha Site, and our fourth wasn't even playing the entire 4th set! It was a low points total (like 738,000), compared to our 3.1 Million on Lost Platoon, but it got the achievement for them.

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  • Thanks for the help, and great details helps too.

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  • great guide me and my 3 brothers got 1.4million points on that level but failed to get the achievement when there were two brute cheftians left at the end of set4 round 5 wave 5. So noyed, so we tried again immediately on alpha zone and got it 2 hours 20mins later!

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  • Yeah this is pretty much what my team did we died on the berry last wave 1 away... Wasted like 2 1/2 hours it sucks... But I'm sure we can get it next time

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  • I'm kinda new to this forum thing bungie all ready got mad at me for making my own topic and told me if I did something wrong again there going to ban me so I hope I'm doing this right ok I need help for firefight I have a great way of beating it we just need teamwork it's going to take at least two hours to beat but you will get Ive done it at least eight times all ready but every time I get past or to the four round we lag out so I'm thinking it's one of the people I'm playing with and need new people my gamer tag is L HYPE L

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  • I did lost platoon and reached 1.5mil, i was always in the hog when the catch skull was on. top tip: run over as much brutes as possible, so much easier on later levels than shooting

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  • A few friends from teamxbox.com got together and conquered the Endure Vidmaster..Took us 2hrs, but well worth it. [url]http://www.bungie.net/stats/odstg.aspx?gameid=14980105&player=RevitXman [/url] Captured some vids. (NSFW Language) 1. [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orDc2obDYyc[/url] 2. [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yY8qu-CDIb4[/url] 3. [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ds_PJPilTTw[/url] [url]http://www.youtube.com/revitxman[/url]

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  • me and 3 guys were gettin this endure achv. and we made it to the 4th set 3rd round and 5th wave n we needed to kill one more guy and this dueche bag turned his 360 off -blam!- as hell [Edited on 09.25.2009 9:21 AM PDT]

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  • London....I'll join up with you, just message me on Live Gamertag is I BronX I

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  • shatter what did you do(cuz im trynig to find people so let me know if you need a gunner)

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  • here we were last round of firefight before the achievement and boom 4 enemies left .... player quit match.... WTF nooooooooooo 2 hours for nothing :( last night was a sad night

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  • yeah ive noticed drivers make a huge differnce there ones who will abonane the vehichle while im in and ill get killed, if anyones looking for a gunner check my odst stats i think im pretty good(im not sure what people consider good)

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  • Me and a few buddies did this today using your basic srategy, although I'm not sure if they found it here or discovered it on their own. It is pretty much the ONLY way to do this map for vidmaster though. One spotter with laser, one guy on a chopper, and 2 guys runnin the hog. We ended with 1,690,000 points and could have gone MUCH further as we still had ~20 lives when we reached the 5th set but two of us absolutely HAD to leave once we got the achievment for real life issues. My two cents for this achievement is the following: ANY group of 4 SOLID (and I stress solid) players should be able to easily attain this achievement on platoon. We had the good fortune of having an absolutely OUTSTANDING Chopper driver. He is a beast in those things, and was a great asset. Not to mention our Hog driver can dodge like Whoa. At any rate, this achievment just takes patience. I tried it with one other group. Epic fail. This group did it our first try and had like I said ~20 lives left when we got the achievement so it's well within the reach of seasoned players. If you are a seasoned vet, seek out your brethren and don't let this achievement intimidate you because it's really not all that hard on platoon with the hog, splaser guy, chopper guy strategy.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] trixrkids3815 Quick tip: on lost platoon on any round there is usualy one which includes a ton of drones, when the blackeye skull is on go to the top of the main base under the roof. Drones are forced to land and come inside making it easy to beat-down and regain sheilds. Took me around 90 minutes to complete it with friends.[/quote]This is where vehicle selection becomes into play - the chopper is way more powerful, but the hog can take more damage and distract the drones from attacking your ground-pounders.

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  • I need to do that.

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  • Quick tip: on lost platoon on any round there is usualy one which includes a ton of drones, when the blackeye skull is on go to the top of the main base under the roof. Drones are forced to land and come inside making it easy to beat-down and regain sheilds. Took me around 90 minutes to complete it with friends.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] its London im always hog gunner becuase im pretty good at that and feel comfortable doing that while sence im left haned lazering is a challenge for me i just need to find a really good driver cuz my hog always gets destroyed between waves 3-4 btw always looking for great players need lazerer hog driver and long range and i promise you wont be dissapointed in my proformance(just add me and we`ll talk when im online)[/quote] Having a good Hog driver is a HUGE part of this. I have not passed the 4th set without Pope, our driver.

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  • im always hog gunner becuase im pretty good at that and feel comfortable doing that while sence im left haned lazering is a challenge for me i just need to find a really good driver cuz my hog always gets destroyed between waves 3-4 btw always looking for great players need lazerer hog driver and long range and i promise you wont be dissapointed in my proformance(just add me and we`ll talk when im online) [Edited on 09.24.2009 7:44 PM PDT]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Flying Dice Excellent guide, very smoothly written. The only real problem I've encountered is the connection issues. I have yet to find a team with little/no lag, so ATM I'm not too hopeful about actually getting this one. From what I've observed, Crater(Night) may be the easiest non-vehicle map for the achievement; there are only two routes to your strongpoint, and there are no serious dangers beyond Engineers and Grunt 'nade spam.[/quote] Very true. If you can keep the Engineers at bay, fighting off the remaining Covenant becomes a LOT easier.

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  • Phenomenal post, guys. I followed this strategy to a tee, and it worked seamlessly. Until a teammate lagged out on the final wave, 2:25 minutes into the game. :-(

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  • Excellent guide, very smoothly written. The only real problem I've encountered is the connection issues. I have yet to find a team with little/no lag, so ATM I'm not too hopeful about actually getting this one. From what I've observed, Crater(Night) may be the easiest non-vehicle map for the achievement; there are only two routes to your strongpoint, and there are no serious dangers beyond Engineers and Grunt 'nade spam.

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  • Prone might not know who you are. Join the queue and I'll put in a good word for ya. orrrrrrrrrrrr you could already be in XD [Edited on 09.24.2009 5:44 PM PDT]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SeasonedVeterans [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Datruel3gend Are there any open spots for your group? If you have strategies this thought out, I definitely want in.[/quote] We're still trying to get everyone in our group the achievement, tbh. I say group as in Seasoned Veterans. We've got about 70 people, and not all of them are good at FF.[/quote] I've been looking for a good Firefight group, and I was in TGP. I either haven't been accepted yet or you guys hate me.

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