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Seasoned Veterans Guide to Vidmaster Challenge: Endure (Firefight)

Hello, and welcome to Seasoned Veterans' Guide to the Vidmaster Challenge: Endure Achievement for Halo 3: ODST. This thread is presented to you by Seasoned Veterans, and was written by I adJACENt I, and Pope Rex, with additional help from UEG PaniK and LB Terminator. I'd like to begin with a little bit of a background on how we got this achievement, and then end with a guide for you to go out there and get it. [b]NOTE:[/b] If you would like to do this on Alpha Site, please visit mastercmj2003's guide for [url=http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=37241034]that map[/url]. Last night, around 930 PM EST, myself (i adJACENt i) and 3 others (Pope Rex, UEG PaniK, and LB Terminator) started up a round of Firefight on Lost Platoon, on Heroic. 2 hours and 12 minutes later, we had finished the 2nd Wave of the 1st Round of the 5th Set, with [url=http://www.bungie.net/stats/odstg.aspx?player=I%20adJACENt%20I&gameid=5744386]1,434,587 points[/url], and an achievement. Pope Rex has also broken [url=http://www.bungie.net/stats/odstg.aspx?player=Pope%20Rex&gameid=7240450]1.5 million[/url] just this morning. [b][i]We could not have done this without teamwork, and a well-defined role for each of us[/i][/b]. I will explain those roles, and much of our strategy, in the following paragraphs. [quote][/quote] The following text can be found on the Halo Wiki pages dedicated to [url=http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Firefight]Firefight[/url] and the Vidmaster Endure Achievement. [u][b][url=http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Vidmaster_Challenge:_Endure]Vidmaster Achievement: Endure[/url][/b][/u] is an achievement in Halo 3: ODST and one of the Vidmaster Challenges. It is unlocked when you play on Firefight, on any mission, and pass the 4th set (the 12th round and 60th wave) on 4 player Heroic co-op Live. It is worth 25 Gamerpoints. In Firefight, you fight against increasingly difficult waves of Covenant attackers. There are five Waves of reinforcements in a Round and three Rounds in a Set. The Set, Round, and Wave the player is in can be seen at the top left of the screen, with the number of players lives being 7 to share between your squad when Firefight is started. The Set is represented by a number from one to infinity, the Round a circle, going from left to right with the Wave the player is in shown under the Round. At the end of a round there will be a brief pause where the player will be allowed to recollect ammo, and get additional lives. The scores will be kept in the top right of the screen, with the Team score being on the top and the player's individual score below that. Regardless of the difficulty, the Tough Luck skull will be enabled from the start. With each new set, more skulls become enabled, more than one at a time. If one can stay alive, they will be awarded with higher scores and medals. Though each enemy class is worth a base number of points, earning medals can modify the player's tally as they go. Staying on lengthy streak without dying, and points will be augmented by a hefty multiplier. Additionally, once a team has survived a Set, they will go on to the Bonus Round. Because it is only a Bonus Round, any deaths will not be subtracted from the overall point pool. However, since the Iron Skull is activated at the start, one death will cause the Bonus Round to end. The Bonus Round provides players a chance to earn extra lives before the next Set. Exact number of lives per score is unknown to us at this time. I will update this post when we learn more. [quote][/quote] Now, we begin our specific guide to getting this achievement... For this specific achievement, our squad played on Lost Platoon (from the Uplift Reserve mission in Campaign mode). We turned on IWHBYD (for extra dialog) and Grunt Birthday Party (for the lulz, and it helps to verify that you actually killed a Grunt). Looking at the map, the South East side, where the big rocks with all the trees are, will be called the front. The East corner of the map is called the Front Left, the East corner of the map is the Front Right, the North corner of the map is the Back Left, and the West corner of the map is the Back Right. The Phantoms that drop off reinforcements will go to only those four spots. As each Firefight progresses, various difficulty-multiplying skulls come into play. Tough Luck, Catch, and Black Eye activate at the start of Rounds; Tilt, Famine, and Mythic activate at the start of Sets. The longer a Firefight lasts, the more skulls remain active simultaneously, so by the start of Round One of Set Five, all Round and Set skulls are active. The Iron Skull is only active during Bonus Rounds. Here is the skull breakdown for each Round and Set, Round skulls are italicized, Set skulls are bold.: Set 1 Round 1 - [i]Tough Luck[/i] Set 1 Round 2 - [i]Tough Luck, Catch[/i] Set 1 Round 3 - [i]Tough Luck, Catch, Black Eye[/i] Set 2 Round 1 - [i]Tough Luck[/i], [b]Tilt[/b] Set 2 Round 2 - [i]Tough Luck, Catch[/i], [b]Tilt[/b] Set 2 Round 3 - [i]Tough Luck, Catch, Black Eye[/i], [b]Tilt[/b] Set 3 Round 1 - [i]Tough Luck[/i], [b]Tilt, Famine[/b] Set 3 Round 2 - [i]Tough Luck, Catch[/i], [b]Tilt, Famine[/b] Set 3 Round 3 - [i]Tough Luck, Catch, Black eye[/i], [b]Tilt, Famine[/b] Set 4 Round 1 - [i]Tough Luck[/i], [b]Tilt, Famine, Mythic[/b] Set 4 Round 2 - [i]Tough Luck, Catch[/i], [b]Tilt, Famine, Mythic[/b] Set 4 Round 3 - [i]Tough Luck, Catch, Black eye[/i], [b]Tilt, Famine, Mythic[/b] Set 5 and up - [i]Tough Luck, Catch, Black eye[/i], [b]Tilt, Famine, Mythic[/b] The #1 Rule of Firefight: Don't die. The #2 Rule of Firefight: DON'T DIE! I cannot stress that enough. This is not Halo 3 Campaign where you can just run around and AR/Melee everything in site. Every death hurts your team in multiple ways. Besides having one fewer life for the game, you may also lose valuable resources by dying in an area surrounded by the enemy. Losing a Warthog, Laser, or other weapons may prove to be detrimental to your team in later Waves. Speaking of the Hog and Laser, at the start of the game, and every following Set (3 Rounds), you will get a Warthog that spawns at the bottom of the double sets of stairs, in the middle of the map (Bottom Mid, Warthog Spawn), in a large room to the North West. Against the South East wall in this room are two Health Packs. There are also two Health Packs at the top of the double stairs, to either side of them. In a side room on the East side, there will be a Laser that spawns at the beginning of the game and after each Round (5 Waves). You MUST be able to keep your Hog alive, and you MUST be able to reserve your Laser shots. You are given 5 Laser shots each round, and sometimes there are 5 Wraiths (one per Wave) in a Round. Your Hog driver and Gunner will need to take down Choppers from behind, as facing these things head on is pretty much suicide. Do everything in your power to only kill the Brute in the Chopper, and not to actually blow up the Chopper. If able, take each and every Chopper you can into the back or the Hog Room, behind the stairs. Store them for use in later rounds (at one time I think we had about 13 Choppers stored in that room). Communication is also key. Your Laser guy needs to know where the Wraiths are being dropped. Your Hog needs to know where the Choppers and Brute Chieftains are. You need to know when the Buggers are coming, so you can ensure you have an appropriate weapon (Plasma Rifle or SMG work best). The more info being passed around, the better prepared your squad can be. [quote][/quote] For your party of 4, you need to have the following types of personnel... Hog Driver / Warthog Driver; Hog Gunner / Warthog Driver; Laser / Support; Long Range / Support [b][u]Hog Personnel[/b][/u]: Driver - Pope Rex Gunner - UEG PaniK The Hog driver and gunners will run the hog as much as possible, taking care to not get it destroyed. During Rounds where the Black Eye skull is turned on (where you have to melee to regain Stamina), you do not want to be in the Hog. One or both of you may want to utilize your Choppers, if you feel comfortable enough, but if not, stay up top on the building. Since this is such a large map, you will want the enemy to come to you so that you can get some melees in when your Stamina gets low. When the Catch skull is activated (Covenant throw a ton of grenades), you may want to be wary of getting close to Grunts, as they have a tendency to unload 30 Plasma Stickies at the same time. [Edited on 09.23.2009 2:38 PM PDT]
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  • Good Job guys thanks for the advice...that is a good job at doing that....its hard to do the hog when tilt is on...thanks for the advice bout the chopper me and my friends are doing this this coming weekend

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  • I just saw that Microsoft is giving away 2000 copies of Halo ODST to students just for registering for a tech competition that they sponsor (Imagine Cup). You don't even have to compete in Imagine Cup...you just have to register. Pretty awesome. Worth a chance for all you students out there! Here's the link: http://tr.im/Abs9

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  • I got this achievment on the first try. We did it on Lost Platoon, two people were in the warthog, one was in the chopper, and I had the sparten laser. It was pretty easy although on the last round we ran out of lives and it was only myself and the guy in the chopper left. There were about 7 brutes left. So I was busy shooting them with a plasma pistol then head shooting them, while the other guy was splattering the last few. So besides that it just took along time to get, about 2 hours. Thanks for the guide ;)

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  • there is also a good fallback position. it helps in case there is a serious problem, like someone isnt here or you are running low on lives. me and my friends like to call it the bat cave, but there is a room that usually 2 people spawn in during the verry begining. it is a large storage room where the door opening is on the left of the inside. when you are at a situaltion that you are in desperate need for a rally point, this place gives you a secure retreating zone. store three choppers and a warthog in there so you can survive in there as long as possible. you have no need to take out the wraiths, because they can bombard you all they want and can never reach you. on rounds 1-4 you need all people in a chopper and the warthog turret. you should never stop shooting unless someone needs to go out and get amunition. on the fifth wave, have 2 chopper drivers and one warthog turret alwais shooting. make shure though that the choppers and the hog can moove in case under fire of fuel rods. the last person needs to hang around the door out of sight so he or she can assasinate any brutes that actually get through the deffence. if it makes you feel better, you can conserve 3 warthogs or 3 choppers, but i would strongly recomend a warthog for the drones, and 2 choppers for the brutes and jackals. remember to alwais shoot in case there are a few stalkers running around. this strategy has alwais worked for me, but i still dont have the achievement due to people with bad conections, people having to go, or my brother or my family forcing me off because it is sunday and i cant be on monday through thursday. i dont care if anyone thinks other strategies are better, i am just here to help, and add on to any strategies that might need a backup plan. you can use it as a backup room or you can use it from the verry begining to the verry end. if you do from the verry begining, only go out for weapons, amunition, and health. gt: GODOFDEATH660 if anyone needs any help, this is my gt, and i cant get on till the 9th of october because of this christian thing that i am going to all weekend. any other help, look on my friends list, and look up Johnson Inferno and High on YSSUP.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SV Garlic I will be looking to get this thread locked, since we're starting up a new thread detailing scoring. I will be linking to this thread from our new one.[/quote]=D

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  • I will be looking to get this thread locked, since we're starting up a new thread detailing scoring. I will be linking to this thread from our new one.

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  • one tactic my friends and i used to get teh 200k point achievment was to use the warthog to guard the staircase wheer it spawns and have a sniper and laser guy on the roof and one guy in the chopper supporting everyone all around/ or just parking the chopper next to the warthog..i was the best driver in the room so i coundt drive hte warthog so i jsut used the laser to kill the wraiths and this was on lost platoon [Edited on 09.28.2009 4:12 PM PDT]

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  • The zoo animal: Riker Watts Map: Alpha Site Purpouse: Trapped in a little elevator room to attract attention from brutes, grunts, jackals, buggers ect. reason: Might be ADD. 2nd reason: Works like a gunshot to a grunts face with a pistol! 3rd reason: i dunno... how it works: Zoo=animals=animals in cages=ATTENTION :D

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  • Thanks guys.... Now my only problem is getting hte people I want to do this with.....to read this.....*sigh*

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  • hey i need some help getting this acheivment so can i have some help getting it. Only good people plz

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] mastercmj2003 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] The MLG Pope Sometimes it's good to run a chopper alongside a warthog, esp when the buggers come out to play. Otherwise, yes you can run 2 or 3 choppers if you have enough and the Laser guy can defend himself.[/quote]Lost Platoon is fun, minus some random kid lagging out...My screen froze, but i could look around. Its like time froze and i didnt...super lag![/quote] To be fair, he did say his internet would reset on him, it was just an hour or so early. And he's not too random, I know him from the AGLA. But this weekend, we need to get a team together and get a solid run for 5 mil.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] The MLG Pope Sometimes it's good to run a chopper alongside a warthog, esp when the buggers come out to play. Otherwise, yes you can run 2 or 3 choppers if you have enough and the Laser guy can defend himself.[/quote]Lost Platoon is fun, minus some random kid lagging out...My screen froze, but i could look around. Its like time froze and i didnt...super lag!

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  • Sometimes it's good to run a chopper alongside a warthog, esp when the buggers come out to play. Otherwise, yes you can run 2 or 3 choppers if you have enough and the Laser guy can defend himself.

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  • I may not have used this guide, but I did something productive for you! My best attempt at maps! [Url=http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=jg6zb6&s=4]Enemy Spawn Map[/url] [url=http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=b4xaon&s=4]Weapon Spawn Map[/url] Credits to ODST Alpha. ;)

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  • Thank you<3333333333333

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  • Used this guide today to get Endure. Some advice not included in the SV guide. Ditch the warthog in later rounds particularily mid 3rd set and on and use choppers instead. Shields deflect bullets and make the Hog largely ineffective. In the 4th set it also takes to long for the hog to kill grunts. My suggestion, ditch the Warthog in favor of one chopper pilot and let the other guy support the laser and occasionally pilot the chopper. Made the 4th set and on incredibly easy.

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  • Great guide, I got it a couple nights ago on Windward. It takes longer there but it is much easier. You just get a plasma pistol and a headshot weapon and don't charge, let them come to you. Especially in the later rounds, camp the middle room. Chieftains are a breeze without their shields, just overcharge a plasma pistol into them and send a flurry of automag or carbine rounds at their head, works every time.

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  • I got to the 4th set 3rd round last wave its not the best achivement but plz help GT K1NG B1LLY 1690 just add me or send message

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  • i need 3 good people to help me get the vidmaster chalange my m8ts keep dieing if ull help my gamertag is TTMONKS3

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] RC Master Doesn't the hog become useless againts brutes at set 2? With tilt on that is. I would have thought two people in choppers would be much better. 2 guns as opposed to one that can actually damage everything. Even then, why not have everyone rolling around in choppers most of the time?[/quote] Yeah, I prefer to dump the warthog after tilt comes on, because it just takes too long to be useful. The chopper seems to be a mix of plasma and projectile... It rips apart everything. And it's great for splattering hunters and chieftains. What I usually do is have 1-3 people rolling around in choppers, making sure no enemies get into the building with our laser guy. It seems to work pretty well.

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  • Doesn't the hog become useless againts brutes at set 2? With tilt on that is. I would have thought two people in choppers would be much better. 2 guns as opposed to one that can actually damage everything. Even then, why not have everyone rolling around in choppers most of the time?

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  • Why would anyone use glitches? If everythings goes easy, its no fun :) But accordning to what ive read about this guide, its pretty similar of what we were doing :) execpt we called the postions diffrent aswell and got 1,734 323 points, But we kinda didnt play as seriouse after we got the achivment. Lives is everything at Firefight, without it, you lose. I'll just get my head back at the game and read some funny messages from 5stars generals.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Dark Splank Another thing you could use in the guide is to get the wraiths and use them yourself with the glitch hehe.[/quote] Can you get into the wraiths???!!!

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  • Another thing you could use in the guide is to get the wraiths and use them yourself with the glitch hehe.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DarkRaider911 Hi, a good strategy I found useful was for 3 people to go on to the hog in the begining and one person goes for the spartan laser and then goes into the passenger seat...then your gunner and driver go around the whole map shooting and splattering while your take out wraiths while your still in the hog,(EASY POINTS!)But while black eye is activated, I suggest that you get 3 choppers and your warthog parked into where you first spawned,preferably the spawn closest to the hog because there isnt steps to climb up and turn into and such and such.Now spam fire on the entrance.But once the invisible dudes and cheftains start to claim the field, one person goes outside in a chopper and stays close to that area while splattering these annoying foes.OH and the person not in a warthog, get a sniper rifle and carbine, go on a chopper, and follow the warthog, kill what they missed and claim that spot for sniping till its time to move.Almost forgot, Try and slow down while the person is spartan lasering, as he/she will have a hardtime not using the scope, and be moving.[/quote] I don't understand the point in putting 3 people in the hog, when one has laser. It costs you 3 deaths if you die and the laser is a lot more accurate when the guy is outside the vehicle on the upstairs portion of the base. But whatever worked for you obviously did ok, i just don't quite understand why that tactic would be used.

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  • Hi, a good strategy I found useful was for 3 people to go on to the hog in the begining and one person goes for the spartan laser and then goes into the passenger seat...then your gunner and driver go around the whole map shooting and splattering while your take out wraiths while your still in the hog,(EASY POINTS!)But while black eye is activated, I suggest that you get 3 choppers and your warthog parked into where you first spawned,preferably the spawn closest to the hog because there isnt steps to climb up and turn into and such and such.Now spam fire on the entrance.But once the invisible dudes and cheftains start to claim the field, one person goes outside in a chopper and stays close to that area while splattering these annoying foes.OH and the person not in a warthog, get a sniper rifle and carbine, go on a chopper, and follow the warthog, kill what they missed and claim that spot for sniping till its time to move.Almost forgot, Try and slow down while the person is spartan lasering, as he/she will have a hardtime not using the scope, and be moving. [Edited on 09.26.2009 2:17 PM PDT]

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