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Edited by ZionFury7:
11/30/2015 12:38:41 PM
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Luke Smith stated in Planet Destiny Podcast, "Community's expectations are a little lofty.....
and raids aren't guaranteed because they're time consuming." Well the $$$$ your studio demands from the consumer shouldn't be too lofty and shouldn't be guaranteed neither. Again Bungie, keep this joker indoors stuck in the office and not outside doing PR stuff, he's not making anything better opening his mouth.....
It's hilarious, Tefty Teft the Podcast cast host cued Mr. Smith to not say that and Lukee Dookee kept on putting his foot in his mouth regarding how difficult it was to design and create raids and how it's just unrealistic to satisfy everybody in the gaming community. At least he's honest and not very hard to figure out, but the guy is a complete A-hole and douche bag. There's a time and place for one to be completely honest and speak their mind, but not when your trying to sell something or provide a service to group of people, I guess he missed that point in college economics 101 class.....lol!!!!!
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Community expectations..and those are what? ..to not have a BROKEN GAME? A story with a beginning, middle or end? If thats too great of an expectation then this slovenly prick needs to find another career. How about this Luke, instead of trying to make your pvp nerf babies happy (which NEWS FLASH will never happen) worry about what really needs a look ie poor mmo wannabe mechanics, lack of competent story, or i dont know something that any AMATEUR game designer would fix like where enemies spawn? If i can sit and camp a cave then thats a problem. Public events happen in the SAME places. We spawn in the SAME locations. These are noticeably glaring problems. You claim you want people using different gear and weapons yet you leave year 1 stuff behind? You have tons of nice looking blue and green gear yet those models dont upgrade to anything legendary or exotic?? Why not? Quagmire looks sick and if that had a legendary or exotic counterpart id run it..Way to go. Heres one..GIVE PEOPLE MORE TO CHOOSE FROM AND YOULL HAVE EVERYONE USING DIFFERENT SHIT! 8O Anyways..guess im done ranting. And to the ones who just love to start drama and reply on posts simply to get off, not this guy. Have fun trolls. :)
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1 ReplyThis is why it would be easier to make old content relevant
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Yeah. His personality matches 90% of the community
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The entire world opens up when you don't expect anything.
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2 RepliesLooks like I may be deleting the app so. I kept the app hoping they'd fix the game. But I guess that Fat hobbit just wants to keep it in a poor state.
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29 RepliesKings fall is basically a bunch of jump puzzles and standing on totems over and over. The fights are not very memorable and neither are the puzzles. Haven't beaten oryx yet, hopefully it's more fun.
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Don't laugh at the adults, kids. You set yourself apart too easily.
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Edited by Bungolickstaints: 11/29/2015 7:16:58 AMLol typical. Great PR as always Bungie. "It isn't us, it's them. Our fans just want too much." Our expectations are too lofty guys cmon now. [b]You gave us those expectations in your interviews and announcements before the game was released BungieVision[/b]
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Where are all the #Desticles and #TakenTots defending Bungie? My god, things must be bad if they aren't all up on #DeeJNutz praising RNGesus.
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10 RepliesNow who sounds more like an entitled ass hat? The gamer.. or the developers? Let the man speak his mind, jeez. Amendment numero one. Read it.
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Ill be the guy that appreciates his honesty. It takes an incredible combination of balls and stupidity to just be that open to your player base like that. Now I can respect that but I can also point out how pathetic that excuse is. The issue I have with what he said is the whole raid thing. Lets just say for arguments sake that Bungie doesn't have the money/time to keep pumping out raids and just all around new content. Why in the hell then would you make everything in year 1 obsolete? Why would you shorten the relevant strike playlist? Why would you eliminate the old raids value? Why would you introduce infusion and at the sametime eliminate options available for people to infuse? If you can't just pump out new stuff I get it. But why would you limit everything else? You basically need the raid to infuse other gear. Well once a week to try and infuse other sets of armor you like creates a grind. The lack of content makes it a grind with no variety. So if you can't make new raids then bump up old stuff so you have more variety. This seemd simple to me. Crucible, for gods sake stop giving the guy in last a Legendary weapon. Back to Pve, heres an idea bungie. Bring it all back. All of it. Every vendor sells every weapon and Armor they have ever had. You want variety and this infusion system to shine. Boom, thats a start. Rework the old raids. Make all the strikes playable. Give the top 3 in crucible better things than the guy who went 3-17. Make Rng a tad bit more selective. For example you open a Legendary engram. Have 3 options of gear pop up. Similar to Armsday and let us pick what we want. Make this grind a funner journey if you can't push out new content.
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Our expectations are "lofty" because of the lies they've fed us about what we're getting in our updates. There's been an issue with the app where you can't take items from your vault.....still hasn't been fixed with the recent app update. They told us there would be a use for etheric light.......I can't find who to sell it to. They told us there would be x amount of exotics with TTK........half of them can't be dropped yet. They told us that loot drops would be 'more likely to drop around your current light level'...........98% of my drops are scrapped instantly because they're below 290. The list goes on and on and on. All they done is promise us content and continuous updates which they simply haven't given us. I'll get home from work ready to tackle the darkness, stick destiny on and I'm bored within an hour of playing. The grind is horrifically long and tedious for very little progress, I can play for 6 hours and get absolutely nowhere! My desire to play this game is dying along with this game, I've spent over a year desperately hoping that bungie would pull their head out of their ass and start doing what they said they would before it came out.......alas I've wasted a full year of gameplay that I could have put into other games.
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He's an asshole. Common knowledge.
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1 ReplyEdited by Sir_Rigid_Beast: 11/29/2015 5:58:56 PMDamned if you and Damned if you don't. What does it matter what he says. It's true. Contextually it takes a lot to conceptualize and build execute raids. Beside they already have your money. He's using the lowered expectation economic approach.
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This is a community of idiots who don't know that they want. "We want new content" you say, well shut up liars. The only thing you want out of content is something new to grind for, and once you spend 10 weeks straight grinding you complain about the lack of content. You want to see a sack of low content? Go play a real rpg, it'll last you a week at most
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3 RepliesAnd to think, this uberneckbeard used to be a game critic...
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I miss old bungie. When they were working on Halo they had a sense of humility. Back then they tried so hard and did everything possible to make the best most polished game they could because everything rode on it. They knew if they failed the company would most likely fall apart. I can't imagine their sigh of relief when Microsoft decided to give them a chance and back them up on Halo. Now they seem to be arrogant, as if they can do no wrong. As if you should be so lucky to be playing a game by bungie. Whatever though, times are changing.
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Don't even give me new raids! I just want the old ones to be relevant!
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Bungie's motto has consistently proven to be "oversell and under-deliver". They will continue to put out as little content as possible for as much money as possible. The lack of content has nothing to do with their inability to produce more; it has everything to do with the fact that it's not as profitable to give us $40 worth of content if they can give us $20 worth of content and still sell it for $40. TDB and HoW had $10 worth of content, if that. I barely touch this game anymore. I highly doubt I'll buy anymore Destiny content, and there's no way I'm ever touching another Bungie franchise again. I'm anxiously awaiting the next company that steps up with a pseudo-MMOFPS like Destiny so that I can never touch this game again. The only reason this game has had any success thus far is due to the fact that it has a monopoly on this game-type for consoles; once a competitor steps in with actual content it'll be game over.
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1 Reply....raid loot system is hard to design? It's changed 3 times now....
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8 RepliesOther Games achieve the satisfaction of the community too and don't complain how hard it is WoW ist a good example how many raids and strikes are in every update or major content add-on And they don't complain
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A side mission in fallout 4 has more moving parts than a raid. CoD zombies has more moving parts than the raids, maybe Atheon has the same amount. Over a year and they still can't balance the weapon classes. We left year 1 weapons for balance. Loot system for raids is worse, somehow. No private matches. 1 new pvp mode and its not original at all. No custom game modes. No modifiers or restrictions. No lfg system. Grimoire ain't even in the game yet. I don't know why we can only upgrade the light level on legendaries and exotics, not blues or greens. No party vs party matchmaking. No 6 man patrol. Vehicles might as well not exist. I have no idea at all why they removed pvp maps and strikes from the playlists. Nightfall is ass. Game will always have a meta so balance will probably never exist. No dedicated servers. New exotics that I don't think much people would really mourn or miss if they were taken away. Shitty grind, it's not worthwhile or fun for the time you put in when you hit end game. This isn't an MMO. Pvp is not balanced and therefore not truly competitive. Pve lacks content and replayability. And this game thrives on community interaction and it lacks community features. Destiny has so much potential, and its not getting realised. I can only have faith for so long.
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9 RepliesI would rather have 1 good raid a year, like vault of glass and kings fall. Than 2 rushed out raids like what we got with Crotas end. Destiny isn't the only game I play. I am happy to wait for content. Plenty of other games to play at the moment.
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11 RepliesEdited by Raza582: 11/29/2015 12:49:51 PMFck off Luke Smith, Destiny budget was $500M ... YOU FCKING EARNED THAT ON THE FIRST DAY OF RELEASE, that was near 15 months ago ... to think what you guys at Bungie must be earning now and pair it with that what you have just said is laughable, why don't you guys at Bungie actually hire some people that know what they are doing, because what you people have at the moment is clearly a lacklustre care free team of people that are all going in different directions. How else do you explain the contradictions that you release with every "fix" which by the way there has been WAY too many. Here is something that many people will find funny, this game released give or take near 15 months ago, since then and I am not joking here, they have released 38 patches to the game ... 38 fixes to this game since it was released ... do with that number what you will, its beyond pathetic, its a joke, its an embarrassment. Even now to this day, the game is not ready to be released, its broken, its hollow, there is still no story, there is still no progression in the game, its just a grind against a random number generator. The game is too easy, there is no challenge, PVE or PVP, its all too easy, the game is too forgiving. Bungie don't deserve this game, I seriously struggle to believe that the people that made Halo are the people that now make this game, I feel sorry for Destiny, its a great base of a game, let down by its so called developer Bungie, what I wouldn't give to see this game fall into the hands of the likes of Blizzard, yknow an actual game developer that releases things when they are fixed are ready. Luke Smith complaining about our demands are too high, well maybe they wouldn't be if you actually got a real team together and LISTENED to us, we only demand a lot because you give us that lot to demand by releasing broken gameplay, test it before you release it. Oh and FYI everything that you have played in year 1 and The Taken King, is all just cut up content from the original story, we have still yet to see anything ORIGINAL from the current Bungie team, if you can call it a team. I have just read through some of the comments and I cannot fault one person, they are all correct, we are telling you how to do your own fcking job, its pathetic. Answer this question Bungie, honestly as a supposed MMO, when you reach end game level, like 310 light plus, honestly what is there to do in the game? What incentive is there to play, what can we do to PROGRESS further? Answer that will anything other than a lie and I will keep playing your broken game.
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Lmao who cares about raids and endgame anymore You can get to a higher level the next expansion by buying shit from the vendor Crotas end was actually a strike Prison of elders was boring as shit most people stopped once they hit 34 or got her benevolence Kings fall the Rng is garbage. I didn't even bother trying hard mode 310 seems like a decent place to be Iron banner and trials are more rewarding and take less time.
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15 RepliesEdited by pumpkinhead1990: 11/29/2015 10:13:53 AMI don't see anything wrong with it. This community demands perfect raids. Crota got torn apart because it was buggy. Following that Bungie seems to be taking the approach of refining a raid before it's shipped. I think the community as a whole would rather quality over quantity, but unfortunately there are people that expect a raid to be churned out every dlc ( which is unrealistic). This is pretty much what I think luke was talking about, in that its just unrealistic to expect them to churn out perfect raids every 3 months.
