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Edited by AnTi PRO: 11/25/2015 5:40:46 PM
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Why is the Destiny community so toxic? A question from a new player.

I would like to preface this with the fact that I've been gaming for a long time and I've been heavily involved with various communities over the years. I have been a fan of Bungie for as long as I can remember. I ran a community called Arm The Flag during the Halo days and we got our Machinima work on the front page all the time. I was even interviewed by the community director, Urk at the time. I've seen issues left and right within games, their creators, and the communities around them and I know there is a mature/respectful way to handle them. I am late to the Destiny game as I just recently finally purchased an Xbox One and I was eager to jump into the Destiny community because I remember all of the fun I had back in the Halo days....well that feeling was soon squashed for me. Upon checking out the Bungie Forums and jumping on r/DestinyTheGame on Reddit for the first time a few days ago I was met with all of of this hatred and resentment towards Bungie for just about every little aspect of the game. Where was this beloved community that I remembered from back in the day? It was nowhere to be seen. Now I've seen the posts and arguments...I realize that veteran players feel shafted for the Y1 stuff taken away then brought back...that's some BS. I see the arguments against the RAF program...which I think is an excellent program and the people complaining about it come off as nitpicking self entitled children, but that's just my opinion. Regardless of your opinion instead of dumping toxic waste posts everywhere in the community about how Destiny is shit and you hate Bungie, and you think it should be this way....maybe you should look at a more constructive way. Where is the mature community that enjoys the game? Where is the mature community that instead of whining like little girls they start a meaningful discussion and possibly come up with something to present Bungie that voices the thoughts of the community as a whole? Turning this sub and the Bungie forums into a cesspool of negativity, complaints, and a whine fest will not help your cause. I love you guys...and I've loved my time playing Destiny so far, but I hate reading through all these crap threads day after day.
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  • Well said. I wish the community here was a little less toxic also. My mute list has grown into the many hundreds after browsing the forums for the past two years. Many others have given reasons why the community is the way it is. Myself? I like playing destiny and find it to be fun. I also generally like the way Bungie has evolved the game. I don't believe the theories that "content was cut" or that Bungie hates it's player base. Life is too short to get upset things that I have zero control over. I believe that if you don't like the game, don't play it. I'm sure I'll get called names for it, but whatever.

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    • Run while you can.

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    • Thank you for this thread. It makes muting them easier when they self identify.

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    • Holy shit Anti!!!!!!! How have you been man? I was on one of the pro teams ATF had with TM spooner. I also did a bit of graphic work for the website.

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      • You're telling me. I just made one post about some cool ideas for balancing, and I am met with people saying, "Git gud scrub" or "Your ideas are shit". Not once did I insult anyone, yet I still get these messages.

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        • You think Destiny community is bad? Have you ever played League of Legends???!!

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          • If you were on ps4 I'd totally hit you up. Between the shitposts and the junk about the whole game sucking for everything they do, its bothersome finding anything worthwhile on these forums. My best advice, find a good clan, and stick with them.

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            • Edited by AtlasReverie: 11/26/2015 11:21:05 PM
              I posted a MASSIVE post about all my issues that still seem to persist in this game - up until a month ago I played regularly but not really anymore - and I have been playing since the Alpha. https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/176137330/0/0/1 I was part of a bunch of groups that were involved with Rainbow 6 Vegas, Resistance, Counter-Strike, Battlefield... so much fun in a lot of those and I agree there are a LOT of COD children that toxify this game. Also, I posted this earlier in the 10+ Day Club thread: It's been a while since I have played, but I'll bite. ( I always check the forums from time to time to see if any better changes have been made, or if the outfitter would finally have the winters born emblem so I could complete my collection lol first time I hopped in today just that damn emblem.) 1750 hours here... Almost all of that hoping against hope the game would get better. I'm grateful for a lot of that time but having "seen the light" and seeing how a proper system of shooter-rng-mmo mechanics should work in a game PROPERLY like Fallout 4, I can only say I wish Fallout 4 would have came out earlier. Don't care what anybody says, you play Fallout 4 or even Witcher 3 for even an hour and it craps all over any of these supposed systems that make this game great. Crazy to think a developer gives freedom to their' players instead of punishing them. Ironically Destiny is a game BUILT for an amazing single player experience, but suffers because people abuse multiplayer aspects. In a perfect world the single player would be a completely separate game so it would be handled with better care. If you are one of those people that says the multiplayer in this game is awesome, I'm sorry you're crazy. Get out there and play some more multiplayer games and see how it should actually be done. They're always doing nerfs in this, the netcode is broken, everybody is all about shotty / blink strike still, Titan Hammers or self-rezing fools. What a joke. I hope anybody still addicted to this - the biggest broken promise, most severe stripped-content game in history - moves on... There are so many other games that are built better and reward you better for time spent. Don't get me wrong I still have hope for this game, but unless some really significant changes happen, I don't know if the massive amount of people that have left - like me - will really come back. Bungie has basically "George Lucased" their game. If you think about that in the context of what that jag did with Star Wars, you would agree.

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              • Edited by Machiavoriel: 11/25/2015 10:30:23 PM
                Welcome to the Destiny forums, stick to the paths and don't stray onto the Moors! :) To answer some of your questions: firstly, there are actually a huge number of decent people, and decent players here - alas, they do seem to get lost in the 'noise' around here more often than not. Reasons for the poisonous content? It varies: firstly, there have been a number of perceived scandals (cut content, paid for services, weapon imbalances and bugs etc) which people have been hugely (and noisily) critical about. You also have the fact that this is the first ever MMO style FPS game, and for those that come from an MMORPG background who love FPS games, this is great. Alas, there are also a huge amount of ADHD kiddies around, who all demand (again, noisily) that everything is handed to them on a plate, they shouldn't have to 'work' for anything, and their patience doesn't last for more than five minutes at a time, so even thoughthe most simple of tasks is perceived as a tireless 'grind'. Is the game perfect? No. Are some of the concerns valid? Absolutely yes! But how these issues have been communicated has left a lit to be desired. Oh, and of course you also have the traditional 'elites vs noobs' arguments, but those are just par the course for any game :) So in summary, these forums are indeed full of bile, venom and poison - and often, anyone who dares speak about things they enjoy/like in the game, is insulted and attacked - so the nice stuff gets drowned out and the bile rises with people feeding off each other's rage. BUT there are bastions of calm, joy and support for the game, they just take a little effort to find them. My advice? Learn to love your 'mute' button to block the most obnoxious and vociferous complainers and trolls, and soon the forums become a lot less full of Darkness, and a little more palatable. Also, check out groups like Safe Gamers and Destiny Sherpas - a lot of good Guardians reside there, and they tend to populate chat groups and message boards over on their respective sites, thus avoiding the usual toxic spew over here :) Enjoy becoming Legend Guardian; I have, my friends (and wife) have, and so have hundreds of thousands of others. See you on the front lines!

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                • Edited by Synthser: 11/27/2015 2:10:28 AM
                  I completely agree. It's silly, I mean if you hate the game, why bother playing? I think that we have similar preferences so I'll just leave this [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/176084913/0/0]here[/url]

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                • There is only one reason, which is immaturity. It is taking longer and longer for people to grow up presently, and sadly, some people never grow up.

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                • Edited by DarthBrando: 11/27/2015 1:59:27 AM
                  Bungievision's marketing team; We like to think most of our (target) customers are 12 years old. [b][i][u]thats a direct leaked quote from bungie on kotaku and why all of this[/u][/i][/b] https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/174807747/0/0

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                • Not sure what happened, the community in the days of Halo 3 was absolutely amazing, now it's total shit.

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                • The answer is somewhere in the middle. There are a lot of idiots and whiners here, sure. At the same time Bungie over promised and cut content. Their decision making has been entirely profit driven since partnering with Activision, putting player satisfaction on the back burner. With all the money they have made we can't even get dedicated servers for a more enjoyable experience. Like you said, you are new. I've been around since the early Halo days and I know how good it used to be compared to now. I still think it's a good game and I will continue to play, but I know Bungie can do better and the only way to bring about change is to talk about it. You get nowhere talking to haters or fanboys.

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                • Mute the tired, the frustrated, the disappointed, the trolls and the shitpost users of this forum and it will be a very quiet place. This place wasn't always like this but what it has become is not entirely the fault of us users. It is however....... [spoiler]deliciously entertaining[/spoiler]

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                • Have you heard what Luke smith thinks about the destiny community?? Mr. "throw money at the screen"

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                • T rating, too many immature individuals involved imo.

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                  • This is one of the reasons why I quit the game.

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                  • I blame PS and its players for the toxic grasp on our community.

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                    • It all started once Crotas end dropped. Other then that the forums during vanilla destiny were actually a decent place to talk about the game. Everyone was alright.

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                      • You got here a year too late unfortunately. Wish I could be positive but people are hating it more and more everyday...

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                      • This is a new generation of gamers who have little regard for others online. Who want their demands to be met and complain about the smallest things. Spoiled gamers. It has become worse over the years

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                        • Because......reasons.....

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                        • I love you :D

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                        • The problem is that bungie is kind of still learning how to make this style of a game and have made many mistakes along the way. The year 1 players had a pretty shitty experience with DLC and meaningful content which is where the salt comes from.

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                          I can't really say I know where or why. It might just be part of the Bungie community but idk

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