Shotguns are ok and the upcoming nerf is not needed who agrees and go!
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They're fine right now. Fusions need a buff to make them a viable alternative.
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Shotguns could use an actual range nerf since they really did nothing to them in 2.0, my worry is that they will completely break them like so many other weapon types that just needed a tweak and got ruined.
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I agree with you
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Edited by BadgerSnipes: 11/26/2015 7:47:11 PMI'm a sniper user and I think both weapons are in good spots... [b][i][u]ECCEPT[/u][/i][/b] the long ranged shotys- Just nerf their range a bit.
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Ok-ish for PvP, terrible and unbelievably stupid for PvE
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Learn to use something else
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The range needs a very small nerf. Everything else is entirely too much, imo
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*crickets*
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I disagree. If I could find out how to upload stuff to this forum from my PlayStation share I would share the shotgun that killed me at an absurd range today. The range is too long considering how fast players can move. The gaps can be closed too quickly for other weapons to be feasible I the smaller areas that make up the majority of the maps.
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Shotguns are fine, this nerf and the one before it are stupid.
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shotguns are shit
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I'm a sniper enthusiast and I agree!
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Edited by Nkarii: 11/25/2015 12:24:44 AMShotguns are going to be unusable in PVE. I hardly EVER play PVP. Why am I being punished? .-.
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I think if you let someone get in shotgun range then you're the one at fault not the weapon designed to kill you.
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Edited by RogueAgent-11: 11/25/2015 11:30:55 AMTo me, they are fine, as are snipers. But people are going to bitch and cry about what ever kills them. So this circle will never end. After this the sniper will thrive for a while and they will get nerfed too. The end game is either a 10 year circle or clash emote dance off, because people cant stfu and just play the game. Odd though, we are nerfing what a shotgun actually really does, but allowing a sniper rifle to quick scope and kill from a little further out, which would pretty damn hard to do, if not impossible, while being shot at. They are too big and to slow to pull it off in anything other than a last chance emergency. Shotguns in crucible are killing people in the amount of shots and distance they should be. While snipers are killing people much closer than they would ever be used. I use both and would hate to see either get ruined, but they need to balance each other. Nerfing one and not the other will just create further imbalance.
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idk if they're okay, I hate shotguns, but I will say this nerf...is overkill. They're destroying shotguns, I've never seen Bungie smoke a weapon type so hard before. They're literally destroying every single aspect of a shotgun. Like, they're annihilating shotguns in my opinion. Jus way too much overkill w. This next patch. The whole range thing was good enough. Melee range shotgun kills is MORE than acceptable in my opinion...adding to that the 20 other changes, is overkill by miles.
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I thought this shotgun nerf was a bit overboard, and I [u][b]despise[/b][/u] shotguns... There are only a select few shotguns that are causing trouble in PvP and those should be the only ones affected. Invective, CT-D, PC+1. They're treating it like auto rifles... Some were broken and then they nerfed the whole class into oblivion and they didn't haven't recovered till this day.
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Shotguns are going to be ridiculous after this patch. They are even nerfing it so it can't be used [i][b]defensively[/b][/i] like if someone's rushing you so you try to pull out your shotgun. Even now, I could jam my shotgun barrel into their knees and blowout their kneecaps and it doesn't kill them. That's ridiculous. And people exaggerate the range at which it kills them. The max range I've killed someone isn't that far at all. Maybe 3m ahead. Max. I think snipers are a bigger problem now. Even when I'm shooting them with my scout rifle, they still find a way to headshot me. They should change it so that without unflinching, the entire scope sways all over the place when getting shot and with unflinching, only the crosshairs shake like they do now.
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Shotguns in general shouldn't be nerfed, there are a few, Conspiracy, party crasher and invective that seem to have uncanny range, but otherwise they're not that bad, just that people need to learn how to use a primary more instead of running around, blink / slide shotgun everything.
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no all they needed to do Was take away range finder and shot package and lower the max range a bit That's it but idk why they like took a dump on shotguners
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I had a debate about this not long ago. It ended with a suggestion that special ammo spawns the same rate as heavy but you get full ammo to use wisely.
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They are fine if bungee removes rangefinder
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Not true, can't wait for them to be dead
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Or just take off range buffs
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They should just make it so high impact has low range and low impact has higher range