When I saw that the game mode for the Iron Banner was being changed to Clash I didn't really think much of it, I can hold my own in a fight and I don't have to worry about protecting an objective this time, fun and easy right?
Nope.
Camping. Camping. Camping. Camping. Removing the objective removed the need to go out and protect or take to get points for your team. Now it's the entire team sitting with sniper rifles unloading on you as soon as you move out into the open. Not fun at all, but if it wasn't a giant sniper orgy it wouldn't be so bad.
I feel as if I speak for a lot of the community when I say that we want Control back in the Iron Banner.
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**UPDATE**
Give your opinion of what you think of the Iron Banner this week, anything you would want to change (bounty or play-wise)? Rift was a suggestion I saw, and I personally think that would make for much more competitive and skillful matches.
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Clash is infinitely better because it lets good players carry shit team mates much easier than in control and forces shotgun scrubs to hunt enemy players as opposed to just rushing control points. Git gud OP
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Edited by SuggestedPigeon: 11/20/2015 3:09:35 AMI'm not really noticing any more or less camping than in control. The increase in snipers is pretty much a meta shift in response to trials and that they are for the most part untouched. Personally I love that it's clash simply because it means that the maps are actually playable without knowing which team is pretty much guarenteed to win based on initial spawns. Comebacks and close calls are actually happening which is incredible because typically in control you win or lose by a difference of like 5000 points. This also means less immediate quitting from what I've seen. Randoms are also significantly less aggrivating because in control they just play clash anyways so it cuts out the middleman. If Iron Banner becomes rift it absolutely needs to be fireteams only and randoms only matchmaking. Randoms can maybe beat a 6 person fireteam in control or clash but rift is just too much.
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1 ReplyI totally agree. Snipers everywhere. Sometimes I'll end a match with only like 9 kills simply because I can't find a safe route to get closer, so I end up just hanging back and poking my head out every now and then. Which is pretty boring. There was this one match where I so wish I would have taken a screen cap, it was right when the match started and most of the team actually stuck together. Everyone charged forward to a certain spot then they all crouched down and pulled out their sniper. There were like 5 of them all huddled together trying to peek down a hallway. I just stood there looking at them in disbelief thinking, wow, this is the new pvp meta, this is so boring. But back to clash IB, unless you are playing on a fireteam its usually just chaos. Everybody just scatters right out of the gates. Either that or they stick together for the first 20 secs then once people start dying it's every man for themselves. That said, it is still kinda fun to do something other than control. Maybe they should just do what they did with the Y1 crucible playlists where the combined 6v6 modes and just made it random. That could be fun. That way it mixes it up, not always control, not always clash. Plus Bungie lovvvvves random, it's their favorite word, thing, concept. Yes this random thing sounds perfect to me.
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Regardless of how IB this week turned out, I'm glad Bungie is at least trying new things. Both players and Bungie themselves can't know how something is going to turn out until it happens. So IB Clash didn't turn out as well as many hoped. Good to know for future endeavors.
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What I don't understand is why they don't have Iron Banner in ALL Crucible playlists and then you can decide as a player which one you want to play. Makes very little sense why it is restricted to only one game type. Sure... I don't like playing PvP at all... but this always made me wonder.
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I tried to switch your mother back on her stomach, didn't work. Feel the same applies here, won't work.
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Team with most Titans always wins
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I like it (apart from the camping snipers). I do think they should have a vote for when you go in - like at the matching screen in orbit. Or Just make it so you can choose which one you want to do.
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you sir can have an upvote. clash and one hit kill snipers are ruining this iron banner.
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4 RepliesI think Clash is awesome for it. I've barely seen any Snipers. I will say it took a little while to develop Clash strategies because the matches do flow differently, but I think it's a fun change of pace. Now if we could just have IB Control 2 weeks from now and rotate them every 2 weeks, it would be incredible.
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7 RepliesIt should be zone control.
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5 RepliesYou speak for yourself. Clash is so much better.
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Hell no for once my team actually understands what to do.
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2 RepliesEdited by xnjhomesickx: 11/19/2015 10:58:20 AMClash is all about staying together or pinching your opponents and holding down key places on the map that provide you a tactical advantage. Your objective is to kill, not to control a point necessarily. And however you gotta get it done is how you get it done. Camping is fine. Just don't try to run into them, or find a way to draw them out. Challenge them, and they'll run. Trust me.
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5 RepliesUnfortunately they're not going to change this week's iron banner back to control because they just wanted to try it out so feedback on this matter is good. I think they need to give rift a try one week. Rift can be very competitive as it is, and adding in rewards and making winning matter can make it extremely competitive. What do you think give it a shot?
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Iron banner playlists should be in effect. Bungie won't do it due to population manipulation but I personally hate clash. Others love it. I want the choice though my choice would always be control or rift
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The only good clash is mayhem. Clash is a real grind in iron banner, so I'm just getting my crucible quests done at the same time, so there is some kind of objective!to play
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No point in me playing this over literally ANY Call of Duty game. Team Death-match is literally the most brain dead snipe fest I have ever seen.
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Clash is tons better and not once did I see camping. Randoms ruin objective modes.
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9 RepliesThey can't change it back to Control cause too many people whined about teams not fighting for the objective. they had to dumb it down for all the little 'tards that primarily run Crucible and can't handle anything objective based.
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Please do this
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Rift would be really cool
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When they first changed it I was excited. Finally something other than control. Then I played it... Oh boy was I wrong. What if they did something like salvage so there is still an objective? Or maybe rift?