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11/13/2015 7:15:58 PM
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Seriously, Why So Much Hate for Destiny?

Is it just the cool thing to do now? Jumping on the bandwagon? What's so awful about the game that warrants constant complaints and people talking about Deej and others with such a huge level of disrespect?
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  • [quote]>Destiny requires immense grinding to acquire gear >Bungie invalidates said gear >Community is pissed off, wants to use their favorite gear >Bungie re-validates gear, promises to never do it, again, and that they want to "respect players time and efforts" >Literally does it again, immediately[/quote] The reason for all the hate is because Bungie keeps making [i]stupid decisions[/i] with Destiny, and takes just as many steps [i]backwards[/i] as they do [i]forwards[/i].

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  • The game itself in its current form if you knew nothing about its development history and marketing? A good solid game that attempts to include new elements into a shooter but ends up falling mostly average rather than being as good as it could of been. If you did follow the marketing and development you would be pretty upset, if you e played video games for a long time you would be even more upset. Destiny from all my experience in gaming is nothing more than above average. It Attempts to combine some features scattered in other games into one, and while the gameplay is solid, it doesn't excel in any one category and the gameplay once you have repeated the limited content over and over again becomes routine and the ai and their spawn locations become easily readable and exploited once you know how they react, which isn't difficult to figure out, especially since you repeat so much.

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  • The hate for Destiny exists because of the circumstances of the game's release. This hatred has carried on because of bad desicion after bad desicion that Bungie makes when putting out updates. If you don't already know, the original Destiny was a watered down lack luster game that shocked everyone because it was nothing like we were promised. The story made no sense and people quickly ran out of things to do. Naturally, people felt ripped off. Following this, Bungie tried to create artificial content by increasing the grind in the Dark Below DLC. This included the weapon upgrade path and the hard mode of the raid, which was just the same thing as the normal raid with a few extra wizards. Again, the raid overall was a joke and extremely lack luster, as it was solo'd within a week. These events pretty much solidified a constant body of hate towards the game. The concept of literally being scammed for playing 60 dollars for a game that was nothing like they promised and a DLC that was just as content lacking, and additional 20$. People still stuck around because they'd like to believe that the game still had hope and potential to improve from the shitty shell of what had been released. However, one thing that really set fire to the community was Bungie's extreme inability to balance the multiplayer. Prior, to The Dark Below, Bungie was pretty efficient in applying balances to weapons with slight auto rifle nerfs, mythloclast nerfs, class buffs, etc. However, they eventually got tired of auto rifles dominating and put out a huge weapon tuning patch that effectively made auto rifles useless and pulse rifles better, which lead everyone to the next best weapon, handcannons (February). This handcannons era was downright ridiculous, namely with weapons such as The Last Word and Thorn. These guns would kill enemies in 2 bullets from virtually any distance and was the cause of much rage, in addition to the pre-existing rage. However, when HOW dropped in May, things got even more out of control. The addition of re-rolling gave everyone a hand cannon, top tier shotguns, and a top tier rocket to run around. Pair with the prevalence of primarily close quarters maps, this made games a living hell for some people. With the introduction of Trials of Osiris, the salt was only that much more painful. What gets most people, is why did it take Bungie 7 months to balance these weapons in the Taken King, when they could balance other weapons within a few weeks? It is also important to note, that after the Dark Below, Bungie promised they would never release a grind fest like progression system again. However, that was a spit in the face of players, as that's literally what they sold in the Taken King to all the players, with 320 light armor being totally RNG, forcing players to grind endlessly for max level, among other things (eg. time-gated exotics, legendary marks etc) That my friend, is why there is so much hate towards Destiny. A collection of bullshit and poor desicions by the developer as viewed by the community.

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    • Mouth breathers are just bored

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    • Gameplay has always been solid but the execution of the story and events has been butt booty poor. They have tried to change that however but overall they still have a long way to go. My opinion is if they don't get it together for destiny 2 then there will be valid concerns when people say the game will die. This is the only game where all the complaints I have seen I understand even if I don't feel the same way. That's a big deal

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    • Micro + DLC= greedy ass company

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      • Lag and terrible rewards. Enough said.

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      • Haters gunna hate.

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      • It's truly amazing the number of people that are still on this forum talking bad about destiny... It makes me shake my head because you have to specifically click on the "destiny" app and go to the forums to talk crap. And more then half of these people don't even play the game any more!

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      • Edited by Barach Jalaalma: 11/15/2015 2:07:22 PM
        Bungie has been taking one step forward, and two steps backwards SINCE release. Even I got tired of the game, that says something. -Weapons and loot are lackluster and generally not worth the grind. -The new light level system took away the old RNG system, but added a worse one. -Bungie doesn't communicate very well with their community. They like to surprise us, but even if that "surprise" gets released people are disappointed. (Sleeper Simulant quest for example) -After playing Crucible for a while you'll notice [i]skill[/i] is non-existant. Which makes kills less satisfying. -You can't do half of the end-game content without pre-organised fireteams. -The game is too [i]commercial[/i] to deserve it. -TTK introduced new content, but that new content is the only thing you'll play. (Old raids should be removed, who the -blam!- even runs them anymore? Or make them part of the game again)

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      • It's also because of the game's grinding and addiction setup. First, it's so obvious a play for cash by Bungie, so that doesn't generate a lot of goodwill from players. But more importantly, you have a grind game that never ends where all players develop some level of addiction. That means no one ever "finishes" the game feeling good and wanting to share the love and help others. Instead, players fall into one of two camps: 1. Those still at the grind. As the rush of each DLC wears off, they are left annoyed at whatever thing they can't get now to allow them to advance. (VOG RNG drops, KF RNG drops, etc). These people in theory still like Destiny, but they are grumpy and exhausted and resent Bungie. 2. Those who have quit. These players managed to stop. But not because they finished it - because they forced themselves to stop. These folks feel cheated and regret at least some of their time on the game, and they want to stop others from making the same mistake. So they are grumpy and exhausted and they resent Bungie. TL;DR: In end game of a grind/addiction game, everyone (players and quitters alike) is grumpy and exhausted and resents Bungie.

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      • Repetitive, and all the past raids, poe and weapons are useless now. Just like what's gonna happen for year 3.

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      • To many kids compalining and asking for nerfs that probs why ppl leave because ppl dont realize its just a game not life if yall dont like it then go play a diff game like really grow up -_-

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      • It's like hating Justin beiber, everyone hates him because he's cool to hate, but if you ask them why they hate him they would probably say, I don't like him or something generic like that

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      • Lying bungie. Overhyped garbage

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      • People love to complain when something isnt 100% what they want, things get changed to accomodate and the people who liked how things were will now complain. Then there are those that will complain just to do so

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      • Its been messed up since day one.

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      • Edited by KennyDoTT: 11/15/2015 11:49:27 AM
        Ever had some food that is advertised as the best thing ever, then when you actually eat that food, it's not all everyone said it was supposed to be? Destiny is like that... hyped to be great but isn't all that. People are upset because they want it to be great, and they believe in Bungie's former ability with Halo, but Bungie keeps doing things to Destiny that are making the game very dull, lackluster, and just barely fun. To sum it up, Destiny is the hot girl with bad breath and an annoying laugh. And her feet smell like corn chips. People are just venting because they love Destiny and want it to be better. With a few major tweaks, it can get there, but Bungie is too worried about Emotes, and Microtransactions.

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        • *Puts on helmet* Because players have unrealistic expectations. Because people don't understand that a game changes during development. Because between E3 and the release, the game was basically re-built from scratch, and it showed. Because players want to be handed the weapons they want in the game, and get pissed off when it doesn't happen. Because people are convinced that an evil company had the game 100% completely produced and on the disc that they bought, but locked it all away from them and extorted them for more money so the could play it. And no matter how much this is debunked, they will still believe it. Because people who couldn't program a video game to save their own lives think it should take only a few minutes to reprogram everything in a video game to be the way they want it to be. Because players want the gear and classes they have to be OP, but want everything else nerfed. And when it happens, they want it put back the way it was. Because people say the game doesn't have enough to do, and also that it takes too long to get everything. Because you'll NEVER please everyone. Because happy people don't generally post long lists of what makes them happy; they're too busy being happy. (Notice how no newspaper ever has a letter to the editor about how great things are in this country, and how we should keep going down the track we're on? Nope, it's all complaints.) Because internet anonymity makes it easy to write things you wouldn't dream of saying in person. Because trolls. *Prepares mute button and awaits replies*

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          • Edited by rayfabolous: 11/15/2015 11:11:11 AM
            From the wise words of 50 Cent as well as 99% of the female population: [spoiler]You know but you acting like you don't know....[/spoiler]

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          • 1) It's not casual enough for the casual players. 2) It's not hardcore enough for the hardcore players. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfhPNsQtaXo

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          • It's just like the nickelback hate train

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            • Good gameplay Bad loot system Bad story Bad PvP experience

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              • Well Promises. That's what did it. Tons and tons of promises that simply became lies, which simply got converted in to silver

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                • Do you play BO3?

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