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Edited by Akira: 11/6/2015 3:29:19 PMSo because I don't have a Titan that doesn't mean I have friends who are, and that I can't study the subclass when inspecting my friends or when fighting it? [spoiler]Hell, if I had a Titan, I'd probably be biased like the others.[/spoiler] I layed down hard facts and evidence, without a Titan. No denying facts. You wanna give a constructive and fact based argument? Otherwise, leave my post.
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Edited by Forsz: 11/6/2015 3:37:55 PMAll the data is plain to see on destiny tracker. Titans are getting crushed by hunters. Sunbreakers are weaker than Nightstalkers. It's right there. Go take a look. You only care because you have to play against it. If it's so OP, everyone would use it. Why don't you go make a titan? Oh, you don't want to? Because you want to keep more of an advantage? Seriously. Do not comment on something you only gain from. I'm a hunter when I play PVP. Why? Because it's superior. I know this from playing the game and seeing how bad Titans area.
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Edited by Akira: 11/6/2015 3:39:19 PMI don't make a Titan because they aren't my playing style. That's likely the reason others don't make a Titan and use the OP Hammer. Destiny tracker is irrelevant, because that data was racked up when Hunters were OP in PvP Y1. Sunbreaker is OP, and I've stated why in my post. The facts I presented cannot be denied, because they're facts. And damn right I'll comment where I want, I made this post.
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The tracker can be used to segment the timespan to just TTK dates. It shows a similar balance to Y1: Hunters are highest played character, followed by warlock then titan. There is a slight increase in titans and decrease in the others (bigger drop in hunters than warlocks). Similar thing with K/D - titan has slightly higher score than last year but splits are the same (hunters have highest, followed by warlock thalen titan). Perhaps the data could be used to argue that things are now a little more balanced than in Y1.
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Edited by Forsz: 11/6/2015 3:49:03 PMIt's not your play style? Lmao. Keep trying to keep an advantage. You are wrong, the data shows this clearly, and you only care because it would help you. It's disgusting.
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Only care about what helping me?
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The super getting nerfed so that titans go back to unplayable. Like year 1. You want to keep your advantage. Learn how to play against them. That's what you should do.
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No man, that's not what I want. I'd glad that Titans have a timed offensive super now. I just don't like how OP it is. It needs a nerf in PvP, just not into the ground.
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It doesn't. The data shows that. I'm sorry, but you are wrong. You are protecting your class.
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[i]My[/i] data and the facts I presented show that it does indeed need a nerf. I want the crucible to be balanced. I love PvP. I'll be going on a 15 kill streak and I'll hear a hammer clank. I'll pump a 1000 Yard Stare shot into the head, but it lives and kills my teammate and heals faster than Red Death or Hungering Blade. I'll run, but that tracking hammer and insane blast radius with one shot ability kills me. It's unbalanced, and a nerf is necessary.
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You are flat out wrong. It doesn't matter what you want to see happen. Titans were given that super for exactly that purpose. It [b][i]should[/i][/b] be harder to kill them. It should have been like that from the beginning. Titans were a joke. The [b][i]real[/i][/b] data, the only thing that actually matters.. Oh, little things that are actually relevant like utilization of Titans in crucible, super kills, kill to death... (You know, real numbers that matter?) none of it supports your claim. None. Your argument is pointless, and it's coming from a non-TITAN user. You don't even know how bad a TITAN is. Titans [i][b]need[/b][/i] that super to compete. It was built to be harder to kill. It should be that way. Again, adjust your play style. There are less and less of you nerf whinny babies around, trying to give yourself an advantage. It's time to eradicate you altogether from this game. You nerf babies are a plague. Bungie has the data. That's all that matters.
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If they [b][i]need[/i][/b] an [u]OP[/u] super to compete, it's clearly a [b][u]crutch[/u][/b]. If you think Bungie is only going to pay attention to one source of data, you're wrong. Cozmo and other people pay attention to the feedback forums. Many people see that Hammer of Sol needs a nerf, and it's requested for a reason. If it's in popular demand, more study and comparison will be done. When that's done, they'll recognize the facts I've presented, and give it a well deserved nerf. [spoiler]A couple weekly updates ago, Deej acknowledged that we ask for the Hammer of Sol to be nerfed. Studying is going on as we speak and it's being looked into. Sorry if they take away your crutch.[/spoiler]
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Again you are wrong on every level. The data will be all that matters. That's it. Warlocks and hunters can cry all they want (not as much btw, only the weak that can't adjust like you), but only data will support a nerf. Right now, it doesn't. You are just mad because it kills you and you can't kill it as easily. You are pathetic. Trying to protect your class. Again, I play as a hunter, a nerf would actually help me. Hunters are far better and easier to play with. I don't want to see Titans get screwed. They already were all year 1. I'm protecting the game from the likes of you, those that want an advantage, that's all.
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You're an idiot. I want balance, not for Titans to be OP in PvP Y2 like Hunters were in Y1. There are many sources of data that matter, like that of which I presented. I don't want Bungie making the same mistake again. The Hammer of Sol should be strong, just not OP like it is. Everything you say makes me cringe a little. I'm going to stop talking to you now, I've wasted too much time presenting facts. You're not worth it.
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Totally agree on that point. We are done here. It's obvious where you are coming from on this and why you want it. You have a dying argument, as I've noticed less people complaining and just playing and beating Sunbreakers, coming from a biased self-serving angle.
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Yes. Let's just agree to disagree.
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Your first intelligent decision. Make it a trend.
