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8/15/2009 6:23:47 AM
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Halo 4, In plain sight. (I was at least part right)

This is an old ass thread from a couple years ago, before ODST even came out. Some has been proven wrong, by Halo 4 has been announced. Now we just have to wait and see how accurate my theory holds to be. _________________________________________ The new addition has been made to the second post. It involves Halo Legends (and now Waypoint), and what it means. (Look for the new link near bottom!) I would like to direct your attention first on the last terminal. If accessed on normal difficulty. [quote] archv.> 28335.67204.85720:[retr] archv.> 28335.67204.85720:[proc] archv.> 28335.67204.85720:[proc] archv.> 28335.67204.85720:[catERR] > CONN. > . > . > NO. THERE IS MORE. > BUT YOU ARE NOT WORTHY. > . > . > NOT YET. > . > . X.XX.713> ghost.713/non-auth/... X.XX.713> refl[/quote] Most of us assume being worthy meant accessing the terminal on Legendary. This is to me plain out wrong. On every other terminal if accessed at different difficulties, you will see different messages about the same thing, or different perspectives of the same event. Also it makes no logical sense because you need not kill anything to reach the last terminal. In Legendary it holds the following message to the player from Mediciant himself. [quote] You don't know the contortions I had to go through to follow you here, Reclaimer. I know what you're here for. What position do I take? Will I follow one betrayal with another? You're going to say I'm making a habit of turning on my masters. But the one that destroyed me long ago, in the upper atmosphere of a world far distant from here, was an implement far cruder than I. My weakness was capacity - unintentional though it was! - to choose the Flood. A mistake my makers would not soon forgive. But I want something far different from you, Reclaimer. Atonement. And so here at the end of my life, I do once again betray a former master. The path ahead is fraught with peril. But I will do all I can to keep it stable - keep you safe. I'm not so foolish to think this will absolve me of my sins. One life hardly balances billions. But I would have my masters know that I have changed. And you shall be my example. [/quote] Now this is very important. The first part. What did he have to do to get there? Does [url=http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=33381763]this[/url] answer your question? I couldn't fit it in here. Now I believe that thread is completely logical, and a master piece onto itself. Now the [i] very [/i] important part. [quote]The path ahead is fraught with peril. But I will do all I can to keep it stable - keep you safe.[/quote] The path ahead? what path? And why is it fraught with peril? Could this have something to do with you not being "worthy" yet? Next important part. [quote]But I would have my masters know that I have changed.[/quote] Masters being forerunners. Now we know the forerunners disappeared, they had the Ark, and shield worlds, yet those are all mysteriously empty. I find the fact that there where trillions of forerunners, yet not 1 made it to the shield worlds (probably located inside the "line"). The logical conclusion? They [i] did [/i] make it in, and out.... [quote]I will begin our Great Journey without you, carrying this bitter record. Those who came after will know what we bought with this [false transcendence] - what you bought, and the price you paid.[/quote] So how could MB's masters know he has changed? Unless he knows where they are and plans to use the Master chief as an example that he has learned the error of his ways. The covenant knew of some kind of "great journey". They thought that if the rings where activated this would happen. What has begun to recently be thought of (thanks wolverfrog) is that Truth [i] knew [/i] more than we thought he did (can someone place link to that?). Now in Halo 3 on those holo-panel things truth says things such as "here we will be safe from Halo's fire!". Could it be possible that Truth learned more from MB about the rings? That they wipe out life and somehow initiate a "journey' of some kind? Could there be Truth to it after all?. "the best place to put a lie is in between two Truths" And vice versa. Did the Forerunners actually leave the galaxy to its own fate? Embarking on a journey for truth? enlightenment? This requires more evidence. But we will get to that latter. For now I want to support the Mediciant Bias theory. I believe that Mediciant is inside of Cortana and chief. This is how she knows of replacement rings and the Ark. [quote]////////////error////////////[restart search] search:[[error]].no search started. .error. *SEARCH TERMINATED! ONI.SEC.PRTCL.1A 05-032 :allow access. 0452-9 :no way. 05-032 :.please.need safe haven.offensive,the other.purpose complete.does not know. 0452-9 : what are you talking about. 05-032 : .he is here.stronger than i.cannot fight.he will not stop.rampancy.rampancy.rampancy0452-9///[[cut transmission]]\\\[/quote] Cortana chatting with MB at end of Halo 2. He wants access to escape from Offensive who has managed to survive all these years somehow. She must have allowed access. Now more supporting evidence, from an unlikely source. The Cortana Letters. [quote]Thanks to this slavishly loyal and humorless AI, I am now sharing cramped [u]space with the circuitry of some hybrid war machine,[/u] itself complicated by such useless clutter as a conscience. I do not like sharing. Sharing is for children.[/quote] The AI is Cortana, the Hybrid war machine is Chief. This may have holes such as being made before Halo 1. But could Bungie have had something in mind when they started the series? The only thing we can be sure of is that there is to much to be a coincidence. [quote]The Mantle has not failed! I've already razed scores of worlds - sterilized systems, routed and [disintegrated] the parasite! We're learning its tricks and strategies. We can halt this thing! And we can follow in [u]Their [/u]footsteps! There are no unstoppable forces in this universe. There are no immovable objects. Everything gives if you push hard enough. [/quote] Note "We can halt this thing! And we can follow in [i]There[/i] footsteps! Could the forerunner believe in a similar concept that the Precursors made some kind of journey? Similar to that of the covenant worshiping the forerunners? Could there be some Tru7h to there philosophy after all? Did the forerunners after firing the Array repopulate the galaxy with life and left it to grow on its own? No doubt they wouldn't have had the man power and go around and collect all there lost ships and cities etc. MB's picies would have been left scattered. But then the question is, where did the Forerunner [i] go? [/i]. Again the last terminal. "The path ahead". The mysterious legendary planet. Now there is much evedince that MB controlled the portal and changed the coordinates. The forerunner say themselves: [quote]The anomalous world is in a perilous location beyond the line. The secrets it holds must be preserved, plans within plans within plans. The inhabitants; these unique denizens, must be researched. They may hold answers to our own mysteries. What irony that we discovered this treasure, only at the end of things. But what fortune that we still had time to save them. The thing we built on that world will vouchsafe their lives, but perhaps one day it will be used for its intended purpose. If the plan succeeds, and they are saved, it will be a good world. If the plan fails, and the adversary succeeds, it will remain an enigma forever with no one left to reclaim it.[/quote] Again note "The thing we built on that world will vouchsafe their lives, but perhaps one day it will be used for its intended purpose.". That thing is the portal. It would save us by transporting us to the Arc. Now multiple portals where probably built in key planets. All to transport to the Arc. But for some reason where "special". We have similar DNA to forerunner, evedince (however little) shows that we had similar body shape and especially feelings and emotions. The relation ship between Didact and the librarian stands testament. We where remarkably similar in many ways. The letter mentions the ark saving us, and another purpose. The portals "true" purpose is where the forerunner (at least some) went. A place probably precursor. Outside the galaxy, some kind of cloud of stellar debri. What could it be? Who knows. Nothing seems to let on what the "Great journey" is in truth. Also note in the last message "nobody there to reclaim it". If we are going to reclaim it, it means we where there before. And considering our similarities with the forerunners could we possibly have a common ancestor? Could this lead to a possible Halo 3 squeal? Not a Halo 4 but a sequel none the less. Something to think about. Also a late note. It seems the Forerunner left the galaxy to us. There technology and knowledge. It looks like we weren't supposed to find the portal until we where "worthy". Ready for the knowledge and Legacy that came with it. (Continues) [Edited on 07.30.2011 2:39 PM PDT]

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  • tl;dr. i need a summary plz.

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  • write a book! im dead serious just sit down and write a book i would buy it i crap u not sir

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  • Too long to read. Can you shorten it so it's easier to understand?

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  • It would be a great idea to see H4 see Chief and Bias work together, akin to the the role Guilty Spark played.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] grinderOSD Also I played end of reach and got the clue 343 industries will continue in bungies honor.It is obvious because at the end of 3 on legendary you see a planet they are heading for.(REMEMBER THIS HAPPENS 2556)and at the very very end of reach the DATE IS IN the 2582.And also dont you think that planet master chief heads for at end of 3 legendary looks a little like reach sort of?So maybe they land on reach again(possibly infested by covenant) And continue fight and Jun and Hasley are alive and create spartan 3 program and continue the fight with buck,dutch,dare,rookie,romeo and those guys,marines and spartans(dont forget elites)and the trilogy ends there.I know what cortana says but how many other times has she been wrong?A few.In combat evolve she says its over, its not she says her and chief wont make it through the cargo thing in halo 3, they do.Well this is my info for new halo game.thanks for taking the time to read this.[/quote] Uh...what? Do you know any of the story? I was going to spend time to correct you...but you can research it yourself. Just know you need to search from the start...and all the way to the end.

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  • AWESOME

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  • wait...... im confused someone run it by me, whats halo legends about? and whats with waypoint? yeah im really confused.......

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  • I'm not sure if that's reach, if so we'd have seem things like big horn river, but I think there's a possibility that it could be the Covenant home-world. To find this, you have to have IWHBYD skull active in campaign. This has to have been added by Microsoft, because Bungie never planned on making a halo 4. Also, out of interest, does anyone know if Halo Reach is set when reach fell of afterwards? if it's the latter, then you guys could easily be right. Also the SPARTAN III project was set up by the UNSC alone, not by Halsey. Keep us posted guys.

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  • hey..HEY ur a hustler homie why dont you go and jump off the bridge if you live do it again

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  • I agree there should be a Halo 4. But it should be called something like Halo: Revelation, Halo: Epilogue, Halo: MIA, etc. My theory is they'll do it because of the number 7. There have been 6 Halo games so far, so the 7th should wrap it all up and contain characters/references of the other 6 (Halo 1, 2, 3, wars, odst and reach). I know some people would like to argue with me about the number of games, so I've taken the liberty to act out how that would go: [b]Some guy[/b]: Halo Wars wasn't done by Bungie so it doesn't count LOL. [b]Me[/b]: Okay fine the mythic disc included with ODST. [b]Some guy[/b]: That doesn't count either since it was an expansion of Halo 3 multiplayer LOL. [b]Me[/b]: Halo: Waypoint! [b]Some guy[/b]: That's not a real game LOL. [b]Me[/b]: What about this link http://g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/700094/halo-waypoint-is-actually-part-of--halos-storybut-its-a-secret-for-now.html [b]Some guy[/b]: No I don't believe it LOL. [b]Me[/b]: *Shoots Some guy in the head* [b]Another guy[/b]: You can kill me, but my conscience just possesses another body ROFLOL. [b]Me[/b]. *Facepalm*

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  • Also I played end of reach and got the clue 343 industries will continue in bungies honor.It is obvious because at the end of 3 on legendary you see a planet they are heading for.(REMEMBER THIS HAPPENS 2556)and at the very very end of reach the DATE IS IN the 2582.And also dont you think that planet master chief heads for at end of 3 legendary looks a little like reach sort of?So maybe they land on reach again(possibly infested by covenant) And continue fight and Jun and Hasley are alive and create spartan 3 program and continue the fight with buck,dutch,dare,rookie,romeo and those guys,marines and spartans(dont forget elites)and the trilogy ends there.I know what cortana says but how many other times has she been wrong?A few.In combat evolve she says its over, its not she says her and chief wont make it through the cargo thing in halo 3, they do.Well this is my info for new halo game.thanks for taking the time to read this.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] VANGUARD 003 Amazing thread, OP! The community keeps Halo's story alive and thrilling. I can't wait to see what happens in the upcoming 343 games, now. :)[/quote] Don't we all?

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  • Amazing thread, OP! The community keeps Halo's story alive and thrilling. I can't wait to see what happens in the upcoming 343 games, now. :)

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Hysterical Joker There are some points I agree with, and some I disagree, not sure if I'll get around to elaborating on them just yet though. But this is an interesting theory, that the Master Chief in Halo 4(a direct sequel by 343) will somehow be guided by Mendicant so he can show he has changed his ways.[/quote] Please do, this thread could use some new intelligent conversation. And my theory is MB has already influenced many things in Halo, all to save humanity and redeem himself.

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  • There are some points I agree with, and some I disagree, not sure if I'll get around to elaborating on them just yet though. But this is an interesting theory, that the Master Chief in Halo 4(a direct sequel by 343) will somehow be guided by Mendicant so he can show he has changed his ways.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] padraig08 THIS, this thread right here is the reason I love halo and bungie so much. there's just so much there waiting to be seen. Awesome job OP, I'm digging this theory[/quote] Very much agreed.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] orenekosama You used "Where" in place of "were" about six times. Confused the f*** out of me.[/quote] You read the entire OP, and that's all you can say?

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  • You used "Where" in place of "were" about six times. Confused the f*** out of me.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Blazze115 when did they say that? show me when and where plz[/quote] Say what?...

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  • when did they say that? show me when and where plz

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  • yes, yes it is :)

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  • hells yer i didnt know that the there would be a 4 sequal, chief needs new amour or new chest plate.

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  • Amazing research and finds.

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  • I see that any new game that continues off of Halo 3 would have the Spirit of Fire or some other relation with Spartan IIIs (such as Gamma Company?) just for the fact that "if it's not broken, don't fix it". What I mean by that is the use of the human weapons and armor within all of the video games. Imagine playing a Halo game with nothing but sentinel beams and whatever else may be lying on the Legendary Planet. Besides, with no troops or truely effective operational systems on the split-ship that John and Cortana are on, vehicle and weapon drops would be unfathomable. With the Halo series being mostly bent on the games, some of the guesswork is a bit simple though I may be horribly wrong. I'm too sleepy to be posting. I'm pretty sure I'm not making any sense. TL;DR- My prediction is that Spirit of Fire may join in on the ride.

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  • The sheer talent of this community will never cease to amaze me. You guys should really think about writing this stuff down in book form, or at least persuing a career in writing. I'm not much of a cannon buff, but this was one of the most interesting reads I've had in a long time. It really makes me look forward to the continuation of the story line, and the revelation of the broken links left un-explained.

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  • Probably the best post I have ever read on the forums. You make it sound so believable, it's brilliant.

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