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8/15/2009 6:23:47 AM
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Halo 4, In plain sight. (I was at least part right)

This is an old ass thread from a couple years ago, before ODST even came out. Some has been proven wrong, by Halo 4 has been announced. Now we just have to wait and see how accurate my theory holds to be. _________________________________________ The new addition has been made to the second post. It involves Halo Legends (and now Waypoint), and what it means. (Look for the new link near bottom!) I would like to direct your attention first on the last terminal. If accessed on normal difficulty. [quote] archv.> 28335.67204.85720:[retr] archv.> 28335.67204.85720:[proc] archv.> 28335.67204.85720:[proc] archv.> 28335.67204.85720:[catERR] > CONN. > . > . > NO. THERE IS MORE. > BUT YOU ARE NOT WORTHY. > . > . > NOT YET. > . > . X.XX.713> ghost.713/non-auth/... X.XX.713> refl[/quote] Most of us assume being worthy meant accessing the terminal on Legendary. This is to me plain out wrong. On every other terminal if accessed at different difficulties, you will see different messages about the same thing, or different perspectives of the same event. Also it makes no logical sense because you need not kill anything to reach the last terminal. In Legendary it holds the following message to the player from Mediciant himself. [quote] You don't know the contortions I had to go through to follow you here, Reclaimer. I know what you're here for. What position do I take? Will I follow one betrayal with another? You're going to say I'm making a habit of turning on my masters. But the one that destroyed me long ago, in the upper atmosphere of a world far distant from here, was an implement far cruder than I. My weakness was capacity - unintentional though it was! - to choose the Flood. A mistake my makers would not soon forgive. But I want something far different from you, Reclaimer. Atonement. And so here at the end of my life, I do once again betray a former master. The path ahead is fraught with peril. But I will do all I can to keep it stable - keep you safe. I'm not so foolish to think this will absolve me of my sins. One life hardly balances billions. But I would have my masters know that I have changed. And you shall be my example. [/quote] Now this is very important. The first part. What did he have to do to get there? Does [url=http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=33381763]this[/url] answer your question? I couldn't fit it in here. Now I believe that thread is completely logical, and a master piece onto itself. Now the [i] very [/i] important part. [quote]The path ahead is fraught with peril. But I will do all I can to keep it stable - keep you safe.[/quote] The path ahead? what path? And why is it fraught with peril? Could this have something to do with you not being "worthy" yet? Next important part. [quote]But I would have my masters know that I have changed.[/quote] Masters being forerunners. Now we know the forerunners disappeared, they had the Ark, and shield worlds, yet those are all mysteriously empty. I find the fact that there where trillions of forerunners, yet not 1 made it to the shield worlds (probably located inside the "line"). The logical conclusion? They [i] did [/i] make it in, and out.... [quote]I will begin our Great Journey without you, carrying this bitter record. Those who came after will know what we bought with this [false transcendence] - what you bought, and the price you paid.[/quote] So how could MB's masters know he has changed? Unless he knows where they are and plans to use the Master chief as an example that he has learned the error of his ways. The covenant knew of some kind of "great journey". They thought that if the rings where activated this would happen. What has begun to recently be thought of (thanks wolverfrog) is that Truth [i] knew [/i] more than we thought he did (can someone place link to that?). Now in Halo 3 on those holo-panel things truth says things such as "here we will be safe from Halo's fire!". Could it be possible that Truth learned more from MB about the rings? That they wipe out life and somehow initiate a "journey' of some kind? Could there be Truth to it after all?. "the best place to put a lie is in between two Truths" And vice versa. Did the Forerunners actually leave the galaxy to its own fate? Embarking on a journey for truth? enlightenment? This requires more evidence. But we will get to that latter. For now I want to support the Mediciant Bias theory. I believe that Mediciant is inside of Cortana and chief. This is how she knows of replacement rings and the Ark. [quote]////////////error////////////[restart search] search:[[error]].no search started. .error. *SEARCH TERMINATED! ONI.SEC.PRTCL.1A 05-032 :allow access. 0452-9 :no way. 05-032 :.please.need safe haven.offensive,the other.purpose complete.does not know. 0452-9 : what are you talking about. 05-032 : .he is here.stronger than i.cannot fight.he will not stop.rampancy.rampancy.rampancy0452-9///[[cut transmission]]\\\[/quote] Cortana chatting with MB at end of Halo 2. He wants access to escape from Offensive who has managed to survive all these years somehow. She must have allowed access. Now more supporting evidence, from an unlikely source. The Cortana Letters. [quote]Thanks to this slavishly loyal and humorless AI, I am now sharing cramped [u]space with the circuitry of some hybrid war machine,[/u] itself complicated by such useless clutter as a conscience. I do not like sharing. Sharing is for children.[/quote] The AI is Cortana, the Hybrid war machine is Chief. This may have holes such as being made before Halo 1. But could Bungie have had something in mind when they started the series? The only thing we can be sure of is that there is to much to be a coincidence. [quote]The Mantle has not failed! I've already razed scores of worlds - sterilized systems, routed and [disintegrated] the parasite! We're learning its tricks and strategies. We can halt this thing! And we can follow in [u]Their [/u]footsteps! There are no unstoppable forces in this universe. There are no immovable objects. Everything gives if you push hard enough. [/quote] Note "We can halt this thing! And we can follow in [i]There[/i] footsteps! Could the forerunner believe in a similar concept that the Precursors made some kind of journey? Similar to that of the covenant worshiping the forerunners? Could there be some Tru7h to there philosophy after all? Did the forerunners after firing the Array repopulate the galaxy with life and left it to grow on its own? No doubt they wouldn't have had the man power and go around and collect all there lost ships and cities etc. MB's picies would have been left scattered. But then the question is, where did the Forerunner [i] go? [/i]. Again the last terminal. "The path ahead". The mysterious legendary planet. Now there is much evedince that MB controlled the portal and changed the coordinates. The forerunner say themselves: [quote]The anomalous world is in a perilous location beyond the line. The secrets it holds must be preserved, plans within plans within plans. The inhabitants; these unique denizens, must be researched. They may hold answers to our own mysteries. What irony that we discovered this treasure, only at the end of things. But what fortune that we still had time to save them. The thing we built on that world will vouchsafe their lives, but perhaps one day it will be used for its intended purpose. If the plan succeeds, and they are saved, it will be a good world. If the plan fails, and the adversary succeeds, it will remain an enigma forever with no one left to reclaim it.[/quote] Again note "The thing we built on that world will vouchsafe their lives, but perhaps one day it will be used for its intended purpose.". That thing is the portal. It would save us by transporting us to the Arc. Now multiple portals where probably built in key planets. All to transport to the Arc. But for some reason where "special". We have similar DNA to forerunner, evedince (however little) shows that we had similar body shape and especially feelings and emotions. The relation ship between Didact and the librarian stands testament. We where remarkably similar in many ways. The letter mentions the ark saving us, and another purpose. The portals "true" purpose is where the forerunner (at least some) went. A place probably precursor. Outside the galaxy, some kind of cloud of stellar debri. What could it be? Who knows. Nothing seems to let on what the "Great journey" is in truth. Also note in the last message "nobody there to reclaim it". If we are going to reclaim it, it means we where there before. And considering our similarities with the forerunners could we possibly have a common ancestor? Could this lead to a possible Halo 3 squeal? Not a Halo 4 but a sequel none the less. Something to think about. Also a late note. It seems the Forerunner left the galaxy to us. There technology and knowledge. It looks like we weren't supposed to find the portal until we where "worthy". Ready for the knowledge and Legacy that came with it. (Continues) [Edited on 07.30.2011 2:39 PM PDT]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Bungie2 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Agustus [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Bungie2 is well more special than we think.[/quote] I thought it was [i]very[/i] special.[/quote] Does this mean my link is worthy to be in your original post?[/quote] I made this thread to provide evidence of a Halo sequel from the plots of the previous games and books, not the whole money to be made argument and related topics. Thats the reason this made TFT. Now if you could provide a sound argument about why it should be in the OP, I may consider it. In fact i'll make a complete section on it that you can head. [i]If[/i] you can sway the mind of Agustus, whos thoughts are set in stone, anchored to his skull. Thus far, many have tried. And thus far, only one has succeeded. [Edited on 01.07.2010 1:25 PM PST]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Agustus [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Bungie2 is well more special than we think.[/quote] I thought it was [i]very[/i] special.[/quote] Does this mean my link is worthy to be in your original post?

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Bungie2 is well more special than we think.[/quote] I thought it was [i]very[/i] special.

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  • You wright too much

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  • Perhaps this will help [url=http://www.gamespot.com/news/6232469.html]Continuation of Halo Series beyond 2015[/url] Pretty much confirms that the Master Chief/Cortana Storyline is not finished yet, and that Legendary Planet...is well more special than we think. [Edited on 01.06.2010 3:35 PM PST]

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  • what is double exp for tomorrow??? PLEASE RESPOND

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  • Oh, god damn it, Bungie! Can't you see everyone is losing their mind. Everyone is going crazy just trying to figure this stuff out! Tell us what's really happening. I can't take it anymore!

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  • 343 or not, here's something Ive been pondering. What happens when they pick up the Game from 3 Legendary ending. Instead of a massive ring, Chief probably gets to blow up the architect's (last?) Forerunner planet aka "Shield World", its probably similar to the Shield World planet we saw in Halo Wars in the ending. Just maybe not infested with flood? or what? I see a big Grey area there even with what has been said already. In the 4th final game with Chief what do you foresee as a new or reoccurring enemy? Maybe Gravemind is back? and Chief wants some kinda revenge? Maybe the Brutes are getting nearly wiped out? and by the human alliance maybe for the most part of the game until it meets up with chief and the fights with Grave mind? All that is pure speculation, but its possible. Especially if they wanted to finish the Chief's story and go a new direction to continue the expanse that is the Haloverse. Lets hear what else we can think up good or bad sky's the limit. [Edited on 01.05.2010 9:36 PM PST]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] xTRU3 HER0x I like Cake. It's good.[/quote] Im overjoyed.

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  • I like Cake. It's good.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SkytheAnnur I didn't read all of it, but looking at what MB left, it is almost like Master Chief could end up where the whole Flood war started, that planet in the legendary ending may be it. Or thanks to the portal our hero could have landed back in time and hence MB will use Spartan 117 as his example of Atonement.[/quote] Or possibly even older, but everything is possible at this point. Im adding a thing considering origins. It proved the portal could change coordinates extremely quickly.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] hunkyandrich [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ScOuRgE3 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Wolverfrog Most people who play Halo don't know what a Forerunner is, a lot of my friends think the Covenant made the Halo rings, and that the Flood were a Covenant experiment gone wrong. A game about the Forerunners would be confusing enough, bring the Precursors into it and everyone would be confused. If they do sequels to Halo 3, they should be set a few months after, with you clearing up the last remnants of the Covenant; after all, High Charity and it's fleet can't have been all that remained.[/quote] Bungie has stated that they are done with Halo after "Reach," are also working on a non-Halo project, so if a sequel is made it will likely fall under the hands of [b]another company, perhaps with some Bungie insight[/b].[/quote]343[/quote] Mmm, I like 343, they are kind like the liaison between Microsoft and Bungie. I might like a halo game if 343 does it, the cut scene's for Halo Wars were amazing, and depicted spartan's as if it was right from Eric Nylund himself. As long as ensemble studios doesn't make another RTS, we'll be fine, but I have a real wait-and-see attitude when it comes to what happens next for halo.

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  • I didn't read all of it, but looking at what MB left, it is almost like Master Chief could end up where the whole Flood war started, that planet in the legendary ending may be it. Or thanks to the portal our hero could have landed back in time and hence MB will use Spartan 117 as his example of Atonement.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Agustus [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] UNSC 2009 EVEN PEOPLE THAT DONT KNOW WHATS HALO KNOW THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE A HALO 4!!!!!! Just to get it straight, Bungie is working in Reach now, then, its over. Dont you think? [/quote] Tell me, hon your honor, did you read [i]everything[/i] I said? 1. Bungie said there last Halo game would be Halo: 3. This means there could be one after Reach. 2. Of course I don't think that because I just made an entire thread explaining WHY there [i]will[/i] be a Halo 4. The best of its kind in fact if I do say so myself. 3. You have nothing to back up your argument which is basically "DER WILL B NO HALO 4 SILLY!" 4. And who said it would be by Bungie, but of course Bungie would be the best suited for it. [/quote] Speculation: Its funny you mention a 4th Halo game, I foresaw it back when they launched 3. I mean the only way to complete the series by now is to launch a 4th and final finishing piece to the main puzzle with the Chief and Cortana. After which I would not be surprised to see a Trilogy set for the titles 1-3 for the 360 and PC. Maybe in the Trilogy set they would add new content and features that didn't exist before too in either version. I know Bungie stated that they worked on the meat of the halo series, but they always had 343 working along side in the background with them after the first game completed. I think so because I bought the Legendary Set for 3 and watched all if the DVD behind the scenes stuff, which had a reference by Joesph Staten about 343 being their true backbone for Halo. in the end it will all pan out perhaps better than we can all expect. Of course not everyone will be completely happy but that is to be expected with as popular as Halo became. I do concur that Bungie is the better suitor for the IP series, but its now completely up to 343 now, lets hope for the best in the near future. Also, I'm surprised about the amount of detail you paid to. Nice work. I may let you into a project I'm needing help with, its related in heavy to Halo. PM me if you get a chance.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] UNSC 2009 EVEN PEOPLE THAT DONT KNOW WHATS HALO KNOW THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE A HALO 4!!!!!! Just to get it straight, Bungie is working in Reach now, then, its over. Dont you think? [/quote] Tell me, hon your honor, did you read [i]everything[/i] I said? 1. Bungie said there last Halo game would be Halo: 3. This means there could be one after Reach. 2. Of course I don't think that because I just made an entire thread explaining WHY there [i]will[/i] be a Halo 4. The best of its kind in fact if I do say so myself. 3. You have nothing to back up your argument which is basically "DER WILL B NO HALO 4 SILLY!" 4. And who said it would be by Bungie, but of course Bungie would be the best suited for it. [Edited on 01.04.2010 4:14 PM PST]

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  • EVEN PEOPLE THAT DONT KNOW WHATS HALO KNOW THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE A HALO 4!!!!!! Just to get it straight, Bungie is working in Reach now, then, its over. Dont you think?

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] iisainfidel i watched something on waypoint and it explained everything about halo but at the end it showed leg ending where cheif was going to another planet and the guy who has been explaining goes what the beep is that soo [/quote] .... Are you on something?

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  • i watched something on waypoint and it explained everything about halo but at the end it showed leg ending where cheif was going to another planet and the guy who has been explaining goes what the beep is that soo

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  • Lol. 343 better be smart upon how they jump to this. I guess having MC just land and not a forerunner flashback would be necessary. Like someone said, while many people can follow the general plot, many think that the covies made the rings and that the flood were an experiment done by them. As well as I know the canon, and I do know it rather well, when it comes to the Precursors I become rather lost.

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  • Awesome.

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  • Well, it is great that you posted all those quotes and expressed your theories. But I think that these theories is what is wrong about the thread as I think that you didn't understand anything about the Halo universe. At some point I was just amazed what outcome you could come up with because the facts didn't point that way. For example: Thinking Forerunners are still alive and well doesn't make any sense. The way the Forerunners killed the Flood was starving it to death. That is the reason Forerunners are dead. Why would they try to run away? They sacrificed themselves for humans. Not to mention Chief, he is floating in space. He did his part in the story, destroying the Covenant and the Flood. Cortana indicated this pretty clearly. The story is closed. You might want to rethink some of these theories or stop trying so hard.

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  • Your thoerys good and it supports that to my thoery and i agree with you there ark is in the void between two galixys which you can see out the map on the ark. my thoery had many holes but reading this has filled the gaps and changed it because the shield worlds may have been inteneded for forrunners to suvive the halo rings which were in stratigic possitions across the galixys to destroy all seintant life and the flood. once fired i blieve that the planet they speak of that had there secrets and what they hope they can return to after is infact a mass storge structure because the terminals speak of a structure and them gathering dna. i belive that once they fired the rings they used the mass storge structure to send and create life in the univirse once again. but ending so would mean they would leave the galixy to allow for the creatures to evolve without iterferance hoping that there decendents would one day find the structure that they used to go to a new galxy and inhabbit which is the structure on earth because as you said this one is speacil and perhaps join them and maybe thats how the profit truth came across this great journey but he miss understood he new somthing needed to be ativated but he didnt no what device and he assumed it was the rings when it was the transport device. because its specail like you said it has to go somewere else and also the great journey might have been for us the decendents of the forrruners to find them and become elightened in the knolodge of the univierse which they will have.

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  • for all those who buyd halo 3 odst special edition including the halo reach beta . they released informations to the offical start 2010 [url=http://xboxteam.110mb.com/mine/]www.Xbox.com[/url]

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  • Holy -blam!- that is one helluva theory, nice job.

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  • Your theories make a lot of sense, seems like you put in some good research. Hopefully the Forerunner Trilogy coming out from Greg Bear will answer many questions!

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  • I liked reading this. One of the things I have to say though, is that if there were to be a game made following a storyline like this, is that it wouldn't be a "Halo" game anymore. If you think about it, the Halo array is no longer a main piece of the story plot, but the great journey that you explained becomes the new main focus. Bungie could still claim that it is done with Halo games while also expanding on the storyline.

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