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Edited by An Actual Ditto:
10/29/2015 8:11:43 PM
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Black Hammer (before and after tuning) vs. Black Spindle
Let's make this a compare and contrast sort of thing
Black Hammer (before tuning)
•DPS machine
•Rewards highly skill hand
•Infinite ammo if you hit all crits
•15 total ammo (including the mag)
Very useful for strike griding and some bosses. Essentially a legendary gun with an exotic tier perk
Black Hammer (after tuning)
•DPS machine
•Slightly less reward for a highly skilled hand
•Finite ammo no matter what
•18 total ammo (including the mag)
The infinite ammo fix is reasonable, can't melt everything now
•Legendary gun with a legendary tier perk
Black Spindle
•DPS machine
•Slightly less reward for a highly skilled hand
•Finite ammo
•18 total ammo (including the mag)
So what's the problem? Why make this post?
[u]Because the Black Spindle is an exotic gun with a legendary tier perk[/u]
I think this needs to be changed (I mean give it the old White Nail perk)
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I say a good compromise is old white nail-2 shots. Almost like triple tap + white nail. Instead of hitting all three precision shots and getting all three shots back (pre nerf) Make it give back 1 shot to the reserves, so it only uses 2 shots from the reserves. Just an idea
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1 ReplyBlack Spindle isnt unlimited ammo
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1 ReplyEdited by King Cabb: 11/1/2015 2:16:18 AMBlack Hammer's old White Nail perk made it possible to down bosses in 15 seconds. That's why they got rid of it.
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18 RepliesYou think reloading your entire clip instantly and seamless is a legendary perk?
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6 RepliesThe perk was changed to discourage people from camping a sniper in PVP.
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No time to explain is basically old black hammer and then some
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Black hammer no longer has infinite ammo.
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1 ReplyCompletely agree. Moving the black hammer to an exotic after the nerf was another nerf. Put the old white nail back on black spindle. It's a simple solution. Put the infinite ammo white nail back on, but significantly decrease the reserve ammo to ~3. So in total it would be 3 in mag and 3 in reserve. Better not miss! I have been advocating for that change ever since the Black Spindle was discovered.
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1 Replywhere do you get that the Black Spindle has infinite ammo? Last I checked, the black spindle has to reload once you empty out the mag and your reserves. I hit this hole every time I challenge Warpriest and Golgoroth, even with 28 bullets in reserved.
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Bump x10000000
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1 ReplyWhite Nail was formerly overpowered. It's now a fantastic gun, and I love it where it is; it's exactly where it should have been.
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Edited by pacificdune: 10/30/2015 7:21:33 PMIt think it is fine how it is. If you have sniper ammo boots or chest you get 23 shots. Which is plenty for all encounters I can think of.
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1 ReplyWhat do people use as their exotic in the raid .....touch of malice sleeper stimulant and black spindle. The fact you are calling for a buff to what almost certainly has the highest boss DPS in the game is ridiculous the foundation of your argument is black hammer had this so its exotic version should but while I can see where you are coming from the black hammer was op and remained op even after the nerf this sniper is designed to be a BOSS DAMAGE exotic it is a nitch weapon use it at the right time and it is ridiculously powerful get it wrong and you have no ammo
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I think they should just increase RoF and slightly increase impact. That way we aren't running around with OP weapons, but are inclined to equip it instead of 100yard state or stillpiercer.
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Edited by Zebra D. Luffy: 10/30/2015 4:00:05 PMYes that would be nice or at least fix the scope options
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Atleast they brought an amazing gun that was legendary over to year 2 as an exotic but from the effort it took to get it and it having a nerfed legendary perk is kinda bad but I'm still happy I get to use it again.
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Yeah, it should really have the old perk.
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Yup. Either give it the old white nail or make it legendary since the black hammer is not viable for year two.
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1 ReplyIt needs a buff
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3 RepliesWho came up with the criteria to determine whether or not something is an exotic tier perk? You? Highest dps in the game seems pretty exotic to me.
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3 RepliesI killed the Deathsingers using the Black Spindle (304), my Eilene whatever (305), and my Ice Breaker (170, I think). The BS and Eilene did about 6200 per head precision shot while the Ice Breaker did 5900 points. Only 300 point difference!!!
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1 ReplyEither that or make the first shot after precision mag proc do 2-3x damage.
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Black hammer before tuning a legendary gun with an exotic perk Black spindle exotic gun with legendary perk. Pretty simple really
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1 ReplyBlack hammer was better. It was a legendary, it didn't use reserve ammo, it had the same high impact.
