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Edited by BDress:
10/23/2015 4:46:10 PM
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Why must there be a weapon type to dominate the Crucible?
It is clear to most Guardians that Crucible, at the moment, is not balanced. Shotguns are still in high demand, and pulse rifles are becoming the new autos from back in the day. Why?
I just want to be able to use my fusion rifles and stand more of a chance, instead, Bungie continuously nerfs fusions making them require almost all bolts to contact someone at a close range. Of course, making this range so small brings in its competitor...the shotgun. And let me say, it is much easier to kill someone close quarters with a shottie than a charging fusion.
Also, why the heck had the Vex receive the amount of nerfs it has had? That's bullcrap. It's the first raid exotic and the gun and weapon type in general get nerfed to the ground for no reason. Now the crucible is just full of pulses, and shotguns. What variety Bungie. Quit nerfing. Just bring back the Crucible we had back in November. I honestly am not happy with how much this game is changing. Miss the original Destiny.
Edit: Here is a quote from the Bungie Weekly Update 10/17/14
"Balance is not about everyone being equal, but rather that not everybody is doing the exact same thing. If everyone is doing the same exact thing, something is not balanced. Everybody is trying to pursue the same unbalanced thing."
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1 ReplyThe Vex is the most shit on weapon in the game. Vex is a god damn shell of what it used to be pre 2.0. Poor thing hardly even kills 1 guy in a clip now.
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Edited by TitanGear: 10/23/2015 4:16:54 PMPeople are always going to use what gets them kills. I used to love the three round battle rifle and the DmR (scoutish rifle) in the Halo games, but in Destiny the Pulse rifle is so bad despite everyone else using it, i can't get kills with it. I get kills with shotguns and scout rifles so I always use shotgun n scout rifles. I can barely get Auto rifle, fusion rifle, HandCannon (aside from Hawkmoon) kills. So I never use them. I have a thorn but I never used it, Had a Suros tried for one match never even equipped it again. Other people will do the same. If a gun gets them a lot of kills they will not deviate from that weapon type.
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Just do like others in crucible do with fusions, camp and raise your armor so you can take multiple hits while lining up a shot and then one shot kill the other player.
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1 ReplyEdited by will: 10/23/2015 1:46:50 PMY do fggts use y1 weapons still in Cruciable
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1 ReplyPulse rifles are a strong class in crucible now but by no means op . This is the most balanced I have seen the crucible in along time . AR are back , scouts are good snipers HC all weapon types can be used very effectively its all about personal preference
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18 RepliesNo, fusions are fine where they are at. I remember when they were a thing and it was just corner camping bitches afraid of engagement. Soon as you approached a corner there's be some dude trying to pre charge his fusion rifle. "Zzzt zzzt zzzt." Most annoying shit ever.
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2 RepliesEdited by Kweh: 10/23/2015 4:51:53 AMI miss my plan c swaps. That was a fun gun to swap back and forth with.
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[quote]I just want to be able to use my fusion rifles and stand more of a chance[/quote]
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6 Repliesyou expect a pulse rifle nerf? next thing you know scout rifles are big, needs a nerf, and auto rifles dominste again, nerf that shit till hand cannons outpower them, nerf it again, and back to pulse rifles
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5 RepliesWell vex was a three shot kill, it needed a change lol
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5 RepliesMIDA ALL THA WAAAAAAYYYYYYYYY, thing sounds like a nerf gun but staggers like a throat punch
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1 ReplyMight as well make snipers not 1 shot head shot anywhere farther then titan melee distance or it would be to op.
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6 RepliesSo wait, you don't like being killed by shotguns now, but you want to revert to the way things were in November? Maybe you forgot the nightmare that shotguns were back then, here's a video reminder. http://youtu.be/3WIfdIJJSRs Also every time I see a post like this I like to point out, meta doesn't equal law. Just because pulse rifles are popular doesn't mean you have to use them. In my opinion weapons are really balanced right now, the most balanced I've ever seen. Everything really seems to work great in its own designed way. With the exception of fusion rifles. I really feel they are the biggest risk/reward weapon in the game. I've never had success using them in pvp. Other than that just use whatever gun fits your play style and you should be fine.
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1 ReplyShotguns are shotgun they are suppose to kill at close range. If your close enough for warlock melee then maybe use a shotty.
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1 ReplyIf you're lucky enough to get a year 2 split shifter pro with a decent role you could be melting guardians next Iron Banner at hawkmoon range.
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6 RepliesI agree with everything said on this post.. nerfing isn't a fix rather then allowing something else to gain the op title..ttk is currently ruled by hawksaws. HoS. And many other things but when you can always point out a weapon that does better than almost every other weapon then everyone flocks to it..there isn't any diversity in the weapons
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3 RepliesBecause perfect balance is nearly impossible to attain and average players (who represent the vast majority of players) will gravitate towards what works best, even if it's only best by a small margin. I thought the weapon type mix in this IB was pretty good. I was killed by every variety of primary. Last time I was killed by thorn and to a lesser extent TLW, but mostly always thorn.
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1 ReplyAgree about the shotguns but making fusion rifles op is worse, they use to be the scrub gun of choice. 90% of primary weapons needs a buff.
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1 ReplyThere's never been a perfect balance in any first person shooter EVER!
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18 RepliesThe issue is the maps as well. A lot of the maps promote medium range engagements. Also, since shotguns have quite the range, and people can slide and blink at far distances, it feels like shotguns are medium ranged guns as well. I personally want an appropriate balance between shotguns and fusion rifles.
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1 ReplyIt's not bungie it's this community everyone wants blame the gun and never will say maybe that guy is better than me Nerf do not help they hurt the game
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3 RepliesThis is a problem because everyone complains that "x weapon need to be nerfed" all this does is artificially change the meta instead of people adapting because they keep getting killed in the same way.
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1 ReplyI'm actually still having tons of fun with tlw
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1 Reply100 percent agree with you
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1 ReplyCrucible in november had the exact same problems, with different weapons.
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It's a crutch to compensate for skill. In a truly skill based game, the weapon should make little difference to the outcome, but then less people would probably PVP.
