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10/20/2015 7:27:32 AM
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Wether you realize it or not you made false assumptions in the data and committed logical fallacy.
Actually, science dictates that when we make an observation, we repeat that observation many times and then make inferences from our data, not the other way around.
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There were no assumptions in the data unless the data was misrepresented. The only statistics I used were total super kills, class population, and subclass population. I even state multiple times that this data isn't useful for actual comparisons. You are trying to find fault with an argument designed entirely to refute a single person's inability to properly interpret the data they themselves provided. The edits in my post are opinion and therefore contain no fallacies. Take this time to realize that I never alluded to these statistics being a good baseline to balance off of, and then try to use those same statistics to prove your point as I did mine. Otherwise, stop wasting my time.
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No no no. I didn't say the data is faulty or based on assumptions, I said your refute is based on assumptions and misinterpretation of the data. Your welcome To go back and read my point again. Just trying to help you out man. Anyways it's like 2am here and my phone keeps buzzing so 'night I'm turning my phone off.
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My original post had no factual or logical errors in how I proved Sunbreaker was anything but balanced. The fact of the matter is that in the 13.5 months Gunslinger has been released, it only obtained 60m more kills than Sunbreaker got in 1.5 months. We can assume why that is if you want, but it doesn't matter for the sake of my argument.
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Edited by Fenderslasher: 10/20/2015 8:13:33 AMWould it blow your frikkin mind to know that in just over a month nightstalkers are within 10m kills of the total kills made by GG users in over a year??!! But it doesn't make a spits worth of argument to say that this makes them op, only that they are far more heavily played in the last month then GG was in a year. You say sunbreakers make 6 times as many kills total in a month, simply out this is explained away in that 6 times as many people are playing sunbreaker in this month. And we [i]know[/i] this already.
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* facepalm. You are straight up assuming that the same Number of players are using both GG and sunbreaker! I can make that exact argument and say that in a month nightstalkers have done the same thing! But we both know that this is because almost all current hunters are playing Nightstalker just like most Titans are using sunbreaker! If you control for population and subclass this is not the case!!!!!!
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You didn't read the full post. I took population into account. Also, there are 3x as many gunslingers than Sunbreakers.
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Over 13 months of data yes! Accounting for the last month? NOT TRUE. If you pull data for just this last month only, sunbreakers make up almost the entire Titan population in pvp. Jesus Christ i just want to shake you until you get it!
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May I ask why you are not arguing with the OP for providing this faulty data? They are the one trying to use these numbers as fact, while ignoring everything their source says.
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The data is not faulty, this guys use of the data absolutely disregards proper data analysis technique. You guys all come back to me when you have actually had education in data analysis.
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Read what you have posted everything applies to the op. It is also faulty data for any analysis of the game. They leave off important info such as multiple accounts, new accounts, discontinued accounts, and skill level. Knowing the skill level of their limited source data is really important since they are using it as a multiplier.
