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10/19/2015 4:33:01 PM
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And that is why Bungie keeps failing at doing a succesful raid. When they finally make a raid that is impossible to beat without 6 people, then they will have my respect and maybe they will start doing something right.
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The raid is pretty tough to beat without 6. If they did a video of them 2-3 manning the ENTIRE raid that would be different. However the mechanics of kings fall do not lend itself to only 2 people. JUST the oryx encounter might. There's a few parts I can't imagine doing without at least 4 people minimum. BTW the video won't play for me so I can't see how they managed to do Oryx without at least 3 people. VOG is the same. Crota was a shambles and full of ways to exploit the mechanics and do it solo. I ran up to Crota solo to kill time earlier in the week waiting for my team to assemble to do King's fall. I wanted to see if I could do it solo as I had never tried it before but my team was ready before I could finish Crota. That whole raid was a joke.
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But people have 2 manned the entire raid.
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No that raid was no joke it was much harder when it was released your much more powerful now then when it came out and so it is very easy for crissake you can one shot the Templar on VoG now. Crota's End was short and that was the problem you could do it in no time at all and the mechanics were easy after you became very familiar with them.
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Edited by WorkadayLemur72: 10/19/2015 5:12:53 PMBut the fact that it can be done without a full fireteam no matter how hard it might be, in my eyes, is another failed attemp on Bungie's part to make a successful raid. To me, as soon as a Bungie raid is doable without six people, it becomes a glorified strike.
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I cant see it like that. the way i see it, no matter how challenging anything is thats introduced, theres always gonna be those people that go above and beyond stellar gameplay. Just like people who speed run and have memorized entire zelda games, or the hardest mario levels, or run thru the entire Halo series on legendary in a matter of hours. In any game theres people who dedicate themselves to being the absolute best possible. No matter how hard the content is in destiny there will always be those people like The Legend Himself that find ways to impress the community.
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Obviously we see things differently and that's ok. I respect your point of view anyways.
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Edited by Ratbertt: 10/19/2015 6:06:11 PMI'm on the same page Polo. I think many people just go straight to "this is trash" because a small subset of the population can achieve something under what the "recommended" is. All the raids were a pain until the 4 or 5th time through then it became a farm. Crota was never really hard at all. The only trouble we had on crota came from glitches. Sword disappearing, boomers shooting you in spots they shouldn't be able to, weird crota animations that got you killed because he wasn't in the part of his animation you thought he was in. Some people just won't be pleased. I think King's Fall did a good job of getting more people into the raid versus Crota that's for sure. Everyone says "this sucks" but no one hardly offers suggestions. What do people want? Every room has 6 plates everyone has to stand on and never get off of? You wipe instantly if you have only 5 people in the raid? Sillyness I think some of the fun is challenging yourself to excel and do things like this with less people. I can't imagine there is a LARGE portion of the player base beating these raids with 2-3 people. But everyone sure comments like it's a daily thing when a few people pull it off. And Kane I didn't mean to imply beating the previous raids NOW was such a great honor. People were one manning Crota almost right after it came out. The people I normally ran with back when VOG was a thing did it with 4 people on hard mode. They were easy back then too when you learned how everything worked.
