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10/13/2015 5:53:06 PM
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This, ladies and gentlemen, is the age of entitlement our generation is growing into.
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I payed $100 for a game yet I'm somehow entitled? Ok bud
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Yes because you payed 100 dollars for the original game. Now there is an extension of the game that you are required to buy and if you don't then you don't get the new content. Your entitlement comes from thinking that you deserve everything for free just because you have an older version.
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You loose content if you dont buy ttk
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I feel if someone purchased a game ($100 for all year 1 content), they should be able to play it.
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Iron Banner was not apart of that.
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When I bought Destiny, I was able to play Iron Banner. When my son did not buy TDB, he could still play Iron Banner. When my son bought TDB, and my daughter did not, she was able to play Iron Banner when HoW was released (and she made it to level 34 with Iron Banner gear). Before anyone mentions game sharing, these were all on different consoles.
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Why the -blam!- dont you game share all that shit?
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I was not aware of a way to share across 12 XBOX Ones. If you know, please help. I hate buying multiple downloads, when a disc was so easy to move from one console to another. But because 5-6 people will play Destiny on XBOX One simultaneously at any given moment, there must be about 3 downloads, and shared 3 times. I'm not sure of another way.
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You did not pay for Iron Banner, Iron Banner was a completely free event that did not come with your disc.
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I agree. That was my point. It was never separate, and those who didn't buy a particular DLC, were still able to play it - until now.
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They cannot play because of level entry.... The content is still there.... Catch 22
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That is how Bungie made people buy more. It wasn't a precluding factor - it was an artificial requirement that they put in place to get more people to pay.
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Might be artificial but they had to do it as power levels have always mattered..... If you had 170 levels running on to teams it would be shocking, I believe that the power cap for non ttk should be lifted
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They didn't have to do anything. There are literally infinite ways to either bring someone along (without granting new abilities, or access to exclusive content), or leave them behind unless they pay. This universe exists only in Bungie's mind, and they chose the path that makes people pay continuously for something the player already "bought" (obviously the difference is - we didn't buy any game - but rather the renting the rights to play on Bungie's servers). This is where a lot of the rub is. Today - I could turn any of my XBOX 360's (I think I still have 4 or 5 of them), and load up Halo 3, and it will work just fine in story mode, heroic, etc... (just maybe without new maps that I didn't pay for). With Destiny - that isn't the case. Let's say I've never played Halo 3. Then today I buy the game, and play it - I could still get that DMR when it becomes available (or whatever was different back then). With Destiny, I'm stuck because I can't even buy Vanguard vendor gear, because no marks. I can't earn or spend currency (because where are you going to get marks - if your light level doesn't allow daily story/heroic strike, etc...). I'm not against Bungie trying to make money, I just wish they'd put that much more effort into the game, instead of schemes and marketing strategies. If the game was better, more customers would buy it, instead of trying to get more money from fewer customers, with less content (by making it exclusive for those few months only).
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Edited by s13mark: 10/15/2015 3:53:35 PMBut the new marks buy you taken king gear!!! I'm sorry but on this you are wrong. All the classic playlists are working, raids etc, poe..... Any thing that you receive new taken king gear or levels should not be played or be available to an account who has not got ttk game, simple as that, seems harsh but taken king is a game in its self, destiny year 1 is an online based game, this is the nature of them, there is no real augment here as we all accepted bungies disclaimers.
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Because of currency change, not because of DLC. Let's say I only bought Destiny (no DLC). When TDB released, I could still run daily heroic stories, weekly strikes (so long as it wasn't new maps). I would still earn vanguard and crucible marks, right? I could still go to vendors and buy gear. When HoW dropped, we could still do the same. The only change with TTK wasn't the TTK gear, it was that currency was deleted (transferred to rep for one time use for those that had some). Would you have said the same thing when TDB came out, that all of those marks some had couldn't actually buy anything, and you won't be able to ever again because you didn't pay on 'X' date of release? I did acknowledge already this isn't a purchase, but a license agreement. It is temporary access to someone else's equipment. I have never complained about any illegality, nor am I against Bungie for making money. I wish they'd take that money and use it to make this game better, instead of finding new ways to screw it up, or hiring a marketing team and PR reps to cover up this crap.
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Edited by s13mark: 10/15/2015 6:59:31 PMAgain your wrong the amour in the tower is the ttk amour where you can change buffs and also infuse..... Completely different to last year And you can't wear it till your level 40..... So it would be pointless for you to have with out taken king
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Again - I'm saying go back to every other expansion/DLC Destiny had. When TDB - there was only TDB armor and weapons (one could not go back in time and buy The Devil You Know, you could only buy The Devil You Don't. It is EXACTLY as I'm describing this current situation. The level 40 requirement only exists in Bungie's criteria as an attempt to push additional sales from individuals who would otherwise be playing the same game (I still haven't started Forza 6, even though it has been out for almost a month - I still play Forza 5). Am I wrong? By the way - the same goes for HoW as well. There is indisputable proof that when HoW dropped, one could not buy LDR5000, because there were only HoW weapons and gear available at vendors. The only difference until now was the artificial light level requirement and currency. Nothing else changed (not even someone's ability to NOT buy HoW, an yet still earn and spend currency). Please point out anything contrary to what I just stated.
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Your logic is wrong because in year one your base light level was 20 so you could buy and equip legendary weapons...... This didn't change throughout year 1.... However Year 2 the base level for year 2 legendary amour and weapons is light level 40..... This is 100% normal in online only games..... Forza is not online only. Seriously if you like the game buy taken king, your argument is flawed and importantly your missing out on a great game.
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I think you're assuming to much. I'm discussing facts. Years are not defined in an infinite universe. There is a game - then there are add-ons. This ADD-ON, negated major facets of the original game. This is not normal, and has never happened in this manner to any game online or otherwise, ever. This was not an expansion but a replacement. Once again - the requirement of being lvl 20 in year 1, and lvl 40 in year 2 is an artificial (but creative and underhanded) requirement that Bungie put in place to force those who want to continue to play the game to pay up (even if there is ZERO intent of exploring TTK places using TTK gear). There is nothing more obvious than that.
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Edited by s13mark: 10/17/2015 2:27:35 AMThey refer to destiny ttk as year 2...... On all official podcasts and live streams And is very normal Practise like the online game WOW.... To be honest. Your argument is going no where, I'm going to go enjoy the Kings fall raid.
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Edited by JasperGTR: 10/17/2015 7:18:51 AMThere is absolutely no comparison to WoW whatsoever in how the mechanics were removed. This never happened. Your enjoyment of a given level is irrelevant, but does display the level of your observation. Please feel free to ignore this, as nothing I've stated is factually incorrect. Please also drop Destiny year 2 nonsense - because that is exactly what my point was. If you don't see it, you will understand perhaps 20-30 years from now.
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Edited by s13mark: 10/17/2015 1:50:42 PMGood luck in banner
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Lol! Just got my 3rd character to rank 5. Done for the week.
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