That's is utterly ridiculous there's no proof of weapons having hidden perks. And even if you're right you're saying both vex and Sleeper have this hidden "perk" yet only vex is in the right slot in the kiosk -_- your logic doesn't add up

[quote]That's is utterly ridiculous there's no proof of weapons having hidden perks. And even if you're right you're saying both vex and Sleeper have this hidden "perk" yet only vex is in the right slot in the kiosk -_- your logic doesn't add up[/quote] You have a high grimoire and you're that stupid? Here have this. https://youtu.be/8bjvx_eiz38 Watch it. Tell me again about no proof?

Thunderlord just completely destroyed your entire hidden perk crap. Firefly always happens on weapons that firefly in their tree. But wouldn't you look at that...the so called firefly doesnt happen every time on thunderlord because it's not a legitimate perk. Literally a perk has to be something in the skill tree that you level up and put experience into it and select it from the tree. I'm not saying [b]some[/b] exotics don't have special abilities but to call them "perks" is wrong and thunderlord proves that. These abilities are built into the guns and cannot be changed at all. So meaning it's an actual part of the gun where as actual 'perks' can be interchangeable and are different on different exotic guns. At no time at all did I say that these weapons don't have special abilities that make them special and one of the reason they are an exotic. But you can't call them perks cause they are not. They are built with the gun, you can't take them off, they don't required to be leveled up. (Obviously exotic perks are not what we are talking about and thus they are disregard) yes obviously my grimoire is high especially considering I haven't even tried the raid yet and that's exactly why I know that all of those things in the video aren't 'perks' they ARE indivisible from the gun. The reason I said there is no proof of perks is cause they aren't. But there are special 'abilities' of each gun you could say. And literally all of that is beside the point you're arguing semantics, you didn't even address the actual point where I said if both vex and sleeper have this 'hidden perk' that allows them to be equipped in different slot why is only vex under primary (where it should be according to this hidden perk) where as Sleeper is under special (which goes against the hidden perk theory) And also that brings up the point that the vex doesn't belong in a special weapon slot, which it obviously isn't, which is a good thing. But the fact that you're trying to say the reason vex is in the primary slot when you equip it is because of a 'hidden perk' is just wrong. The vex is built like a primary weapon and performs like one meaning it doesn't need a perk to be put in the primary slot. Where as the no land beyond performs like a special weapon and NEEDS that perk to be in the primary slot.

Just to disprove your disprove. Pre-Patch Necrocasm didn't detonate a cursed thrall attack all the time now did it? In those same patch notes they said they would increased the chance thunderlord made an explosion. Would you look at that? Dumbass.

Are bloody retarded? Of course pre patch necrochasm didn't trigger all the time. The pre patch necrochasm literally says "Percision kills with this weapon [b][u]FREQUNTLY[/u][/b] trigger a cursed thrall explosion." It says the exact same thing now. The perk never said it triggers all the time. Frequently is regularly or habitually; often. I don't know about you but last time I checked 'often' does not mean 100% of the time. But I guess you're to slow to realize that. The FIREFLY perks says: Precision kills with this weapon cause the target to explode. You see that? It doesn't say 'often' it doesn't say 'frequently' it doesn't say 'regularly' cause it happens all the time. If you're so stupid you're trying to argue the wording of a perk with me? That's the developers fault they don't reword the necrochasm perk post patch. It's funny cause you keep arguing the small point that has nothing to do with Sleeper cause I already destroyed you on that topic and you know it :) so go ahead keep arguing about something not even related to my post. Makes you look really smart.

Thunderlord Arc detonation chance for Lightning Rounds kill increased to 50% Magazine size increased to offset ammo stat changes Direct copy from Bungies patch notes retard.

Wow good for you do you not know how to read genius? I shut you down on necrochasm and everything before that and you're still so desperately hanging on constantly changing the subject every time! You don't even know what you're trying to say. Every time I destroy you and you just say a bunch more crap?! Look at the title of my post you attention deficit mentally challenged child, what does it say? It's says Sleeper Simulant. Does it say anything about thunderlord? No does it say anything about necrochasm? No, yet you keep arguing points I don't give a shiit about?! You're obviously an immature child that can't have a proper debate to save your life cause you mentally challenged mind can't stay on one topic. You just jump around saying a bunch of crap that has NOTHING to do with my post. Do you seriously have a learning disability? Like that's a serious question. Go back to school, learn how to have a conversation about a single topic then come back.