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10/8/2015 7:52:51 PM
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Solution for the Sleeper Simulant NERF Exotic Swords

I keep hearing a lot of people saying they are not replacing their exotic sword for the Sleeper Simulant. A simple solution to this problem would be to nerf the exotic swords! We are talking about a weapon that's supposed to be the Year 2 Ghorn and currently it doesn't live to the expectations. Bungie you should nerf the swords a lot! To make the Sleeper Simulant more competitive.
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  • buff the sleeper plez

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  • Do not nerf. Always buff. Else the forums will forever burn in reasonably justified butthurt.

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  • I replaced my exotic sword with a purple machine gun. Outside of warpriest (in the middle), I couldn't find much use for a sword in the raid. Rocket launchers are good in a few spots, but it's really all about high impact snipers and ToM. In strikes and patrols, swords are great. They're also the highest risk/reward value weapon in the game. Even shotguns didn't put you directly into melee range of enemies. It's no surprise that they can be OP in the right situation. My only real gripe about SS is the ammo. However it does about 2-3 times the damage of a high impact sniper, with most snipers in that category rocking 18 rounds total, 7 shots is roughly on par with the total damage output of a sniper. Finding ammo is another problem, it would have been a far more viable weapon in the secondary slot and if fusion rifle bonuses applied to it. All that aside, if you don't have black spindle or ToM, it's not a bad weapon to cycle through during DPS phases if you're using 1KYS or another sniper. I rarely used my heavy during the raid after our first few clears (and people had better personal DPS output). ToM will dominate your exotic slot during the final two fights.

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  • DON'T YOU DARE DO THIS. TAKE THIS BACK RIGHT NOW. I LOVE MY SWORDS. Yes. I'm salty about this post. The exotic sword quest is [i]significantly [/i] harder and longer. Except for the bolt caster's special, [b]they force you to weigh risk vs reward because you must be within melee distance to use them. [/b] Sleeper simulant has range. /thread

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  • Those saying it's supposed to be the next Gjallahorn have no proof of that. It's an expectation that has no basis for it's own being.

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  • Everyone is saying the Sleeper eats up bosses which is WHAT ITS INTENDED TO DO but lacks for everything else which is WHAT ITS INTENDED TO DO. So lets just move on.

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    • They should actually nerf the entire game! That way when my Titan shows up on the Dreadnought every enemy in the area instantly dies and loot filled exotic glow balls rain like candy! [spoiler]Shut up Meg![/spoiler]

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    • No that's stupid, and i don't even have an exotic sword yet... But how about instead of doing the stupid nerf thing, we just have the ss buffed so it does a bit more damage and we can carry more ammo in reserve maybe up to 15 rounds?...

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    • The sleeper is a beast. People don't know what they're talking about

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      • this typical nerf thinking..... what a -blam!-ing load of horsecrap.... they should make the sleeper better instead of nerfing 3 difficult to use high risk high reward playstyle weapons... the sleeper sucks.. and it will keep on doing so even if you nerf swords... what is this??? a gaurdian who hates destiny? want to destroy the game?? buy all the emotes or something..

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        • Bungie should just remove all the weapons and give us peashooters. Also, nobody said that the sleeper simulant was going to be the next Gally, everyone just assumed that it was going to be the best weapon because it was a unique type of weapon. Also some people are claiming that it might not be the full version of the gun considering its level requirement is 30 and every other year 2 exotic is level 40. Nerfing swords so that another weapon can be useful is an idiotic suggestion to be completely honest.

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        • Woohoo!! I agree to nerf everything to dirt!! Hate will a thing of the past, it will be heaven on earth!!

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        • Edited by an engram full of bees: 10/9/2015 3:48:34 PM
          Swords are fine the way they are. They're balanced, powerful, and lose ammo at a rate that's fast enough to keep em in check. Sleeper Simulant just needs a damage buff. That, or it needs a stronger perk.

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          • you must be fun at parties.......................(sigh)

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          • Are you retarded or just plan stupid? The simulate at 290 attack will kill skolas in two shots. That's at 290. You can't two hit him with a solar sword at 310. I my self have infused it as high as I can, only 295, and I personally can't wait to get some 310 heavy exotic drops to infuse into it asap. If you use it, and look at the actual damage it is capable of, you would see what another friend of mine noticed (and he didn't like it at first and was the first person in the group to get it so he did further testing) it is more powerful then the g horn. Yup, it really is. The memory we have of that weapon is at full power. That's attack level 310 these days,oat people left the fusion cannon at 290 and made their poor judgements based off an unleveled, base drop weapon. I think this is going to be a gun that the idiot lemmings on lfg will require for a raid team once everyone realizes just what it can do.

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            • Why not buff SS instead of needing sword? If bungie did what you did all the guns would be terrible

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            • Wtf, why not just buff the SS? [spoiler]Never go full retard[/spoiler]

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            • Never go ass to mouth OP. Mores when it's your own ass.

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            • What is your problem?? The swords are the most fun part of Destiny currently and you want to screw them over??? You sir a the biggest of butt heads ..

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            • Your a -blam!-ing retard go get a sword and you will never use sleeper simulant its trash.

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            • Swords are good for some instances but not all, we will use it if we want to, if we don't find it to be a yr2 g-horn? Oh well, don't care, I'm not going to say its the new ghorn just because some bungie employee was saying it's going to be, thats his opinion

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            • Nerf the Swords? Are you -blam!-ing retarded dude?

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            • I feed all my exotic swords to my SS I figured there was more practical uses for raids and all that jazz

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            • Muppet, it's a fusion rifle and gally is a rocket launcher with wolf pack rounds.

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              Imagine a whole team with SS targeting one enimie! Yikes!

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            • *puts on tinfoil hat*

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