So, every game, there is that one guy who has a matador or a messenger. Why? Is it because you are not good enough to succeed with new, balanced weapons? Before people say I'm jealous or whatever, I have a matador, BTRD and lots more. Imo, people who do this ruin what would otherwise be a great pvp experience. Discuss Edit: I seem to have worded this badly. I don't care if people use ldr invectives etc. I am only complaining about things such as the matador and messenger that are still op. Edit 2: lol so much hate. Never done this before it's really fun. Edit 3: wow this has really taken off! As suggested in a comment, I will suggest an alternative to some of the weapons I'm complaining about: Messenger- red death, similar RoF/Impact but with slightly more recoil. Will work well in IB next week. Shotgun: the new monarchy vendor version is a beast Edit 4: woah! 730 replies. This is quite interesting, at the moment I'd say it's about 50:50 between agreement and hate