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9/30/2015 5:17:46 PM
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Changes in Access Policy on Bungie.net

Hey there, Community. At Bungie, we’re committed to making our website a safe, well-lit place for the community. As the engaged innkeepers of Bungie.net, we’ve learned that accountability is a great ingredient in the recipe for a healthy community. When a user has some personal investment associated with their account, they’re more likely to take pride in the way they communicate with other people. Since its inception and throughout various evolutions, Bungie.net has served a community that shares a game. The game (Destiny, for example) is the thing we all have in common – the unifying element that brings us together in the first place. In order to ensure that the end-users who are accessing the public forums on Bungie.net have a greater interest in the quality of the conversation, we’re going to require that each account be linked to a Guardian with some player history. At current, that includes more than 99% of our active community. Bungie.net accounts are free, easy to make, and easy to link to your playable character. Your access to the public forums is tied to your Guardian, but your account can still be used to enjoy many of the free social features that we provide. If you’re not playing Destiny, you’ll still have access to Private Groups. If you’re a new user who is seeking support from us on the #Help forum, you can find some instructions on how to create and link an account here: https://www.bungie.net/en/Help/Article/12130 If you need assistance with creating your account, let us know here: https://www.bungie.net/en/Help/Troubleshoot?oid=13633 It is our hope that you’ll enjoy a long stay in our online home. Throw down some roots. Make some friends. Play some games. Be excellent to each other. DeeJ, out.
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  • When halo 5 comes out I imagine you'll let people be connected via that. If you are relying on destiny for the survival of this forum you may as well close it down. Most of us stopped playing long ago. New players will not be that many.

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    • Edited by Tartan 118: 10/1/2015 1:53:24 PM
      [quote]Throw down some roots. Make some friends. Play some games*. Be excellent to each other. DeeJ, out.[/quote] *Play our game or else.

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      • Edited by Tlaloc___: 9/30/2015 11:47:45 PM
        [quote]It is our hope that you’ll enjoy a long stay in our online home. Throw down some roots. Make some friends. Play some games. Be excellent to each other.[/quote] Oh, the irony.

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        • I understand the concern By what if you don't want to show others your account? I feel like the main attack is how good someone is at the game

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          • Edited by Kody: 10/1/2015 1:28:40 AM
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            So if you want to be a Bungie fan, you have to play Destiny. That's dirt. Users have been coming here for years to play and discuss all [i][b][u]Bungie[/u][/b][/i] games. And now because they either can't or don't want to play your newest game you're practically removing them from your community. No, this is not just the Destiny community. It's the Bungie community. Well, it was anyway. Restricting users to one account is great. I've been wanting that for a decade. But not at the expense of the community.

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            • Wow, I actually can't support this decision at all.

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              • What you would do if you wanted to actually cared about the website: 1. Enforcing set standards of behaviour instead of letting people throw insults around 2. Larger numbers of mods from different countries with set standards of behaviour to keep them in line and make the moderation process faster 3. Give forum groups more tools to deal with spam inside their groups 4. Make the forums actually inviting to be in, say more options for background colours and maybe some user titles for those who have been on the website for years. 5. Make it easier for people from every background to feel welcome. As it is, some people feel like the mods and staff have grudges against them for no good reason (mods/admins leaking personal data for example). 6. Try to encourage actual debate instead of say "batman vs ......... 7. Don't bring in a paywall to let people use this website, it will damage the website more than you think. In short, "Harm can come from good intentions" Terry Goodkind, [i]Stone of Tears [/i]

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                • Congratulations Bungie, you have now punished that 1% of people, those people who exist, are active on the forums, and have offered our Community a greater experience, as well as being loyal Bungie fans. And now, because they were smart enough to not buy your shit $60 game, they are effectively kicked out of it. Congratulations, Bungie. Welcome to destiny.net.

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                • DeeJ you need to redact this change right now

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                  • Well I realise my first post on here was overly emotional. (This is also, but a little less like throwing things within reach at you.) Here is my somewhat logical stance? Yes, most of that 1% will be alts, however I know atleast one user that will be lost. I'm new here(Destical), and that 1% has a name. That 1% is atleast one person I interact with. That 1% has made friends here. That 1% have just been martyred. Yes, the Flood are people. I know that is hard to fathom at times. They may be crazy and down right mean at times yet they are people. As much as you would like for them all to go away, or at least re-name themselves "The Hive".. for the love of god, don't let that be a thing. This is not how you should treat your fans. Yes you have fans, Activision look awful on you, like a dodgy sweater your mum brought you for Christmas. They don't feel the need to treat their fans well, as they know their re-box and re-packaged game will sell. How long do you think it will be before your fan basis is the same as COD? Good luck with that, I will not be around for that. I will enjoy you becoming yesterday's Jam though, see if Activision treat you as the 1% you will one day become. R.I.P The respect I had for a once great games company. I hope you become great again. I hope this is a blip. Remember what you have always been know for bungie!

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                    • I hate how deej makes this post so uncaringly thinking that everyone will love this new change but this is bullsh*t. You Are killing most of older fans, do you even care?

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                    • [quote] making our website a safe, well-lit place for the community. [/quote] This is the internet. No place is safe. And it may be well lit, but that isn't necessarily a good thing. #darktheme [quote] engaged innkeepers of Bungie.net [/quote] Lol [quote]we’ve learned that accountability is a great ingredient in the recipe for a healthy community. When a user has some personal investment associated with their account, they’re more likely to take pride in the way they communicate with other people. [/quote] Or they will continue being who they feel like being, because this is still the internet and it is still anonymous. [quote] The game (Destiny, for example) is the thing we all have in common – the unifying element that brings us together in the first place. [/quote] it will be once you've kicked out your loyal forum users that didn't buy the new game. [quote] In order to ensure that the end-users who are accessing the public forums on Bungie.net have a greater interest in the quality of the conversation, we’re going to require that each account be linked to a Guardian with some player history. [/quote] Um, what kind of drugs are you on? Have you even looked at your own forum??? Quality of conversation is the last thing anyone thinks about on this forum. Or any forum for that matter. [quote] At current, that includes more than 99% of our active community. [/quote] Yeah -blam!- all those guys. They don't deserve to be treated like human beings. /sarcasm [quote]If you’re not playing Destiny, you’ll still have access to Private Groups. [/quote] Because yeah, that'll make everyone happy. /sarcasm [quote]It is our hope that you’ll enjoy a long stay in our online home. [/quote] This whole thread says otherwise. [quote] Throw down some roots. [/quote] Why should they when you'll immediately rip them up after they've grown nice and deep? I hate when companies do stuff like this. It serves no purpose except to screw over a select group of people. What do you really expect out of doing this? Money? You really think that 1% is going to pay just to use the forums? Do you want to make the forums a better place? If so, have you ever looked at your own forums? Because it doesn't seem like it. And you said you were [quote]engaged innkeepers of Bungie.net[/quote] Seems to me that you're just throwing rolls of duct tape at a problem and hoping it will change the way you want it to without you having to put any effort into it. This whole move is just pathetic. I'm disappointed in you and the rest of the web team. Unfortunately, you are going to go through with this regardless of feedback. I'd be surprised if you even see my name, let alone read my post. TL;DR: This is stupid and pointless and only serves to screw over some forum users.

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                      I come out of the woodwork when topics like this present themselves. This is what I have to say about this particular case: I can completely understand why Bungie would do it, but[b] I am not at all behind it. [/b] If you've been here since the Halo days...If you've had a LINKED account at any point in time, there should be no issues what-so-ever. [b]It's pretty sad, and says A LOT about the group of people who is literally pushing out the old for the new.[/b] Cheers to the defiant few. -JBX

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                      • So you're saying people that just want to be on the #gaming side of things can no longer? Even people that have been on here since day one? This is ridiculous.

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                      • Edited by Saxifraga: 10/1/2015 8:30:59 AM
                        "The one about The Purge" would be an honest head line. :D It's official: Bungie is now a dictatorship. I have 3 34s that were rendered useless by TTK. Is that enough skin in the game? Bungie still owes me TTK, because the buzz speak "year one" was just a payed for [b]f[/b]ucking beta! Luck Smith even tells us now he knew the original Destiny to be a bad unfinished product! Now just admit to be lying asshats who only want our wallet. Btw. Your article is 100% newspeak of the orwellian kind. Why not try a job as government speaker? Honesty and truth are things community managers don't know anything about. Wormtounge shall be your name!

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                      • Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't we already forbidden from posting on #Destiny if we don't have a destiny character linked? I tried it once and it didn't work. This change is idiotic, just like most of Bungie's decisions recently.

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                      • Bungie once again returns to put more nails in the coffin of their fanbase. Bungie has become a joke that tells itself.

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                      • Lol nothing has been done about the community's outcry yet and I doubt they will. RIP 50% of their site

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                      • Edited by GhostlyWolfy: 10/1/2015 10:25:54 AM
                        Well there goes 50% of the community

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                      • So this policy is going to give people an incentive to report now right? Clean up the forum? Oh.....

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                      • But what about b.net users who don't play destiny. What about the guys who have been here since halo 1 but didn't get destiny

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                      • [quote]It is our hope that you’ll enjoy a long stay in our online home. Throw down some roots. Make some friends. Play some games. Be excellent to each other.[/quote] A long stay, up until your next game? Then you will yank the roots out from under us? I did, but now they just got shut out of the forums. Play games, as long as it's your current title, right? Why not try being excellent to us instead?

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                        • More info has come to light about the whole Marty vs Bungie situation. I found this a very interesting read. http://gameattorney.com/blog/?p=100

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                          • Edited by OtherJesus: 10/1/2015 1:39:40 PM
                            Some dedicated forums members will be left behind. Besides that, I like this approach. Edit- While I still like the [i]idea[/i] behind this approach, after reviewing your post, it's the wrong approach. It's the lazy approach.

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                          • This seriously comes off as the plot of the villains from a Simon Pegg movie.

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                          • you do realize the only thing this does is make an alt 5 seconds harder to make right? create psn/xbox, load up destiny play first story and hey you can talk.

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