EDIT: Not sure how you guys are still finding this thread (I can't find it anywhere) but for those of you trying to rub the Sunbreaker nerf in my face Bungie even said that despite having 5% more super kills than the other classes Sunbreakers K/D topped out at 1.06 just like the other classes did. So the only problem was the super, however to bring balance they would obviously have to buff the neutral game to compensate. That's exactly what they did, they gave Titans a longer melee range and gave a plethora of bonuses to Striker while reducing the health of HoS and making the hammers a little harder to land. [b]I still say that with the information Bungie gave us Sunbreakers were not op. They had the same K/D of the other top classes. [/b] http://destinytracker.com/destiny/population [b]tl;dr below in bold [/b] EDIT: Nvm probably won't keep updating this too much work. But As of 9/25/2015 people are crying about Sunbreakers being too op when they aren't the best pvp class out there kill wise at all even after accounting for differences in population. (out of all ability kills in pvp) Supers: Nightstalker 5.44%, Sunbreaker 3.18%, Stormcaller 2.91% Melee: Stormcaller 3.55% Nightstalker 3%, Sunbreaker 2.73% Grenade: Nightstalker 4.57%, Stormcaller 3.93, Sunbreaker 2.41% Population: 34.2% Hunter, 33.5% Warlock 32.3% Titan 5% of Hunters are Nightstalkers 4% of Titans are Sunbreakers 4% of Warlocks are Stormcallers Analysis: There is a .06 Difference in class usage between Sunbreakers and Nightstalkers. There is a .03 Difference between Nightstalkers and Stormcallers. There is a .04 difference between Sunbreakers and Stormcallers. When we look at Supers there is a .41 difference in kills between Sunbreakers and Nightstalkers. There is a .46 difference between Nightstalkers and Stormcallers. There is a .08 Difference between Sunbreakers and Stormcallers. When we look at Melee there is a .09 difference in kills between Sunbreakers and Nightstalkers. There is a .15 difference between Nightstalkers and Stormcallers. There is a .23 difference between Stormcallers and Sunbreakers. When we look at Grenades there is a .47 difference in kills between Sunbreakers and Nightstalkers. There is a .14 difference between Nightstalkers and Stormcallers. There is a .39 difference between Stormcallers and Sunbreakers. As we can see Nightstalkers have 41% more super kills than Sunbreakers and 46% more kills than Stormcallers. Stormcallers have 15% more melee kills than Nightstalkers and 23% more than Sunbreakers. Nightstalkers have 47% more grenade kills than Sunbreakers and 14% more than Stormcallers. These results are interesting since Hunters only have 5% more users than Sunbreakers and only 2% more users than Stormcallers. Of that there are only 20% more Nightstalkers relative to their population than Sunbreakers and Stormcallers to theirs. However [b]What we see is that even despite the desparity between users Nightstalkers consistently do much better than the other three subclasses so far with the exception of melee in which Stormcallers relatively only have a slight lead. Sunbreakers on the other hand do the worst in everything with the exception of their supers in which Stormcallers are not that far behind. Can you really say Sunbreakers are that op?[/b]