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9/24/2015 4:45:13 AM
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A sunbreaker should [b]NOT[/b] survive a golden gun shot.
Reduce its defense so a golden gun shot can kill them and it's fine. As of now they get just a tiny bit too much defense to where another super can't cancel it out
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I think it's cool that at least one duration super survives it, maybe give GG headshot multiplier and require a headshot to kill them.
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This would work
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Why should Golden Gun be allowed to win 90% of Super vs. Super fights?
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Edited by Sherpa: 9/24/2015 5:03:57 AMBecause every other super cancels GG? Every super cancels every super..,except sunbreaker Do you not realize that? FoH cancels GG, BD, NB, Radiance, SB, NS, SC NB cancels GG, BD, Radiance, SB, NS, SC GG Cancels BD, NB (unless wearing SoDA), FoH(unless running unstoppable), radiance, but not a SB, NS (unless tethered first before you shoot), SC NS cancels all supers only if shot and successfully tethered first - doesn't result in a kill without direct impact until enemies are shot etc SC cancels everything except SB just not as effective as the other super SB cancels everything. And survives things no other super does. Defender..suppressor grenade is about it..
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Edited by Erijian: 9/24/2015 5:03:10 AMMaybe if a player is braindead they'd lose to Stormtrance with Golden Gun active; but let's be real here OK? In a situation where a player is using Golden Gun correctly you should never be killed by any other mobility Super (Bar Sunbreaker), and might die to things like Fist of Havoc if they have unstoppable or Nova Bomb if they have the Skull. If they don't, you normally trade one-for-one. Golden Gun when used correctly didn't lose to any Super until Sunbreaker was a thing. I don't expect you to understand this since you're a shitty PvP player, but try your best.
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Sunbreaker is mobile with high range and too much armor that's the issue. They can throw hammers the range of GG and survive a GG shot
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Edited by Erijian: 9/24/2015 5:04:34 AMWay to derail the main conversation.
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Way to not understand balance.
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Because someone with a 1.08 K/D should totally be suggesting balance ideas. That's the equivalent of some random ass Silver (kek) player trying to balance League of Legends.
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You're an absolute moron if you think KD relates to balance.
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Edited by Erijian: 9/24/2015 2:06:58 PMNah, it's part of the bigger picture (Your stats in general are shit) of whether you should even be allowed to talk about balance or not. Bad players should just keep being bad, and stay out of balancing discussions since they play too poorly to be allowed to join in on them.
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Edited by Sherpa: 9/24/2015 4:19:29 PMThat's the most retarded thing I've heard...you're never going to make it in the real world kiddo. Balance is balance if every super (minus special armor) can be shit down by each other there shouldn't be a super exempt from that.
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Edited by Erijian: 9/24/2015 9:46:01 PM>kiddo kek. Anyway, if you're at work and the new kid tries to offer suggestions on how to do things, you blow him off due to his lack of experience and/or skill normally. The same applies to players in games; they should never offer balance suggestions unless they're both skilled at the game and have played it for a long enough time. Though I'm pretty much done arguing with you at this point; y'know why? [spoiler]"Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience" - Mark Twain[/spoiler]
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Sunsingers can survive one to. Just shoot another bullet dude. Your super shouldn't cancel other supers with one bullet because you have the super with the highest range. Sorry not sorry.
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Edited by Sherpa: 9/24/2015 4:55:45 AMBy the time you fire a second GG. The hammer killed you. Warlocks NO LONGER SURVIVE GG after ram nerf unless they run radiant skin. Sunbreakers get tracking hammers+regen health on kill+enough armor to survive a GG+the range of a GG (close to) See the problem?
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No I dont. If you cant for two shots off in time you are the problem. P.s. I used radiant skin all the time before the ram even existed and they tried to nerf Warlocks back then. It's not gonna happen pal so quit your bitching.
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You don't see the problem because you want to be the OP class. All classes need to be balanced. They're not balanced.
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Lol bro have you seen my characters? My titan is level 15 and hasnt even started the sunbreaker class. I shut down sunbreakers all the time with my lock and my hunter. YOU'RE just mad YOUR class got it's privilege checked. /thread
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Edited by Sherpa: 9/25/2015 2:42:30 AMI honestly think the GG was OP. However SB shouldn't be the only super that survives a GG.
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That we can agree on.
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They dont i 1 shot them constantly or u mean with overshield?
