[quote]Dude, the problem is that there are too many children that play destiny and don't understand concepts like the one in you wrote. Ppl saying dumb stuff like, "you want something for free." If you're playing destiny, you've paid for already somehow. This dlc is much larger than the last 2, but pretty much screwed the ppl who don't have it. I think it's pretty lame. DLCs are usually add ons, not replacements. The game is cool and fun to play to a point, but the amount of grinding we have all done and now making us do it all over agian, ppl gonna get burned out. So much of the things I liked to do, now I cant. Voidwalker w obsidian mind and intellect at 100 I could use novas often and generate 8 orbs all the time for my fireteam, that been taken away. Just 1 example, but I'm not sure where bungie is trying to go with this. This game used to be bad ass and everyone loved it. Now, it's so divided and the ppl who used to love it now h8 it. Not because it's not fun. but because the way things are being done. just my opinion.[/quote] I'm burned out for sure. My gaming time is limited and the last thing I want to do is grind for something that I already had that is now worthless. The currency system is jacked, drops are jacked, rewards system for completing quests is jacked if you can get them to drop at all and all of the gear I spent hours getting is worthless??? I'm done. Oh yeah, and to even get close to some of mediocre Y2 gear I have to spend more of the little time I do have begging people to help me get it. Sounds like a great time.

And all of that comes back to Bungie. The nerfed the orbs, intellect, discipline and strength for one reason, to artificially extended gameplay.