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Edited by HeartStrong07: 9/2/2015 8:59:22 PM
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Luke Smith Arrogance: "Sure, let me know when to take off work, Luke"

Luke Smith, please keep this guy and his arrogance away from the media: [ NOTE During a livestream for Destiny: The Taken King, Bungie has announced that you can play the new anticipated endgame raid, titled King’s Fall, on September 18 at 10:00 AM PT.] “I’m not going to announce the plan for it on the YouTube gaming stage…But I promise for people who are excited about the raid will know when it’s time to take time off work. We’ll give em’ a heads up”. Unlike nearly almost every other game that comes with the endgame content when you buy it, TTK will not. I will buy the DLC, maybe, when the Raid is available, or simply wait so long that I play one of the other games being released in the fall. Edit 1: I have a different opinion, or mode of business operation, than some of you. My principle is that I expect to get what I paid for, when I paid for it. Or, tell me ... Upfront ... what will be held back., not after the fact. Got it! Some of you operate your business exchanges in a different fashion, giving your trading partner as much leeway as possible. Edit 2: Seems like I should assume Destiny is an MMO, because it is and that is how MMO's operate, even though no one from Bungie has described Destiny as an MMO, nor, said that we shouldn't expect the principle endgame Raid of a product many of your pre-ordered (I did not) when you pre-ordered it. Got it! This is simply the MMO model. Edit 3: Luke Smith is joking and making light of the fact that many of you arrange your work schedule around a video game so he is actually helping you out. Even though, when he will tell you, and the length of leeway time he will give you is uncertain. Moreover, he cannot tell you now if the endgame Raid will be added in one, two or three weeks. Got it! Luke is helping many of you. I can appreciate this point. Edit 4: Video games take a lot of planning and investment and it is a miracle that they get released on time with as few bugs as they do. So, just be patient and do the missions until the endgame Raid is available. Got it. Best argument said by a few very respectful fellow Guardians Edit 5: I know they followed this procedure with VoG and Crota, but many would argue it was less about taking out bugs (because their was still plenty) and more about Bungie dictating how players play. Edit 6: I don't hate the game. I have many, many hours into Destiny and just want the game to improve and for Bungie to keep their word. Not a lot to ask. I appreciate the positive changes such as the improved story / missions in HoW and the addition of ToO. Let's not forget, however, that HoW was sold to include a Raid that was removed and included a PoE Horde mode that was repetitive and had horrible rewards.Destiny will not get better if we as players do not BOTH: 1) applaud the good and 2) call out the bad, or broken promises. Conclusion: I get where a lot of people are coming from, but Bungie seems to shoot from the hip a lot and say one kind one day (such as weapons growing with us and a Raid in HoW) and then something different another day. For me, they are consistently flakey, with their word not meaning much, for example how HoW would have so much variety and great rewards.

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  • No way you should buy the dlc until yhe raid is out. I may suck luke poe and trials. 40 for nothing.

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  • Edited by gilded_hotdog: 9/1/2015 6:20:04 AM
    Funny if you wait for the Raid to unlock you won't be very effective and Noone will take you on their team. LS was simply stating the announcement will come at a date and venue of their choosing not that YT wasn't worthy. If you have half a brain it will probably be a week or 2 after launch.

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  • Pull your head out of your ass. This happened with vog and crota hard. Nothing new. Play the game, "that you paid for". Quit your -blam!-ing bitching!

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  • I don't understand. Do people not remember or weren't around when we had to wait for the vog raid? It gives players a chance to play the game, level up, get some new weapons and then have fun when the raid drops. People are making this into a huge deal but it follows the same pattern of the game since it released.

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  • I like Luke... Ease up homeslice

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  • You really like saying 'Got it' don't you? It's like some really dumbed down super villain line.

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  • Ok I get where you're coming from, but didn't they do the same thing with VoG? Bc I saw Cozmo said to another post that it was to give everyone time to level up and find the best gear available etc etc Also, they're telling us now. It wasn't as early as we'd like, but they told us before TTK drops which gives time to those who want to cancel their preordered because of this, to do so

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  • You are an over sensitive person, you are finding reasons to hate people on purpose. Luke Smith seems like an alright guy, sure he made a mistake with the throwing money at the screen thing but people make mistakes. He's just trying to say that for anyone who does want to take work off or plan their schedule accordingly that they'll have the times up soon for the release of TTK and its raid.

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  • If you wait to buy TTK when the raid is up you STILL won't be a high enough level to do it. So it not being there day one is no different from it being there a week later.

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  • I mean no offence, but the raid should be dropped at the same time as TTK, not doing so, is infact a breach of our (The players, CUSTOMERS) rights. You wouldn't go to Ikea and buy a new wardrobe if Ikea told you that you wouldn't get anything except the screws and fixtures, not the wardrobe for x amount of time right? But on another note, I don't really care, not having a raid will just push me to other games, especially as EuroGamer is in Birmingham, UK this month, and I got a ticket 8) See you there I hope Guardians. (EuroGamer is basically the British equivalent to E3, just not as big, but hopefully with just as much fun)

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    • Edited by Red Right Hand: 9/1/2015 12:34:31 AM
      It's gotten to the point where Luke Smith can't even utter a word without everyone picking it apart to bash him. Has he done mistakes in the past? Yup. Should we be disappointed at the "no-raid-at-launch" news he had to announce? Yup! Was this quote from Luke Smith legitimately worth a whole thread? No. That's dumb.

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    • Destiny itself did not launch with a raid, and crotas end had a month to wait before the hard mode came out.

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    • For one you assume the raid is endgame.. that is is the be all end all of the game and the most important part of the game.. IT IS NOT and never was or ever will be. it is just another part of the game. To make such a fuss about the raid not being available day one so you can try and rush through it as soon as possible is just childish... And you did not pay for content or amount of content ever. your money only buys you access to that content at the developers discretion of when that will be or how much it will be. You do not own the game or any rights to it at all. Tough if you dont like their business model, they are not ever going to change it to make you happy about it. They dont care if YOU are unhappy or not nor will they ever.

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    • I for one appreciate the heads up.

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    • I see your point, but not a big deal to me tbh. But people saying that this is how MMOs work, you also pay a monthly subscription fee with MMOs.

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    • I expected it to be delayed originally because VoG was delayed. Makes sense for people to level up and get some gear so we can attempt it. Plus it would be silly to finish the raid on day 1.

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    • This is a serious question. Do you, or do you not actually understand why the raid release is delayed?

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      • Vault wasn't here day 1 either. It'll come out when it comes out, they have told us they made the hard mode first so chances are we won't have to wait for hard mode after normal mode launches.

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      • I don't raid much, so the delay is inconsequential to me. That said, I think many of us assumed the VOG wasn't released with the original game because they had to ship on the published release date. I never expected expansions a year later to be released piecemeal, and I don't think Bungie ever mentioned it – should we as consumers have expected a drip feed of content? In the end, it doesn't matter much – we've been waiting a year for a story, what's a week or two for a raid? My Final comment on the matter is that they should take all the time they need to make sure the new raid isn't a glitchy, cheesy mess. If that means they can't make good on the published date, that's unfortunate, but another broken raid would be much worse.

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      • How was this arrogance? I know plenty of people who are taking time off for major releases this fall, if not for Destiny, then for Fallout 4, or MGSV, or even Call of Duty. I don't understand how it's arrogance to make that statement. People will cry about anything at this point. Even vanilla didn't launch with the Vault of Glass.

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      • I agree with OP. Bungie has never delayed the release of a raid before with any expansion or the original game. This is completely unprecedented and represents a drastic change. Quite frankly, I am shocked and Bungie should be ashamed that they would do this when it absolutely has never happened before with the vanilla game or TDB.

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        • The issue to me isn't that it will be delayed it's that they didn't give us a raid in the last expansion... Poe is not endgame I'm sorry it really isn't. But now they announce that this one will be late. I'm really losing respect for bungie

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          • Got it? Got it! Don't got it

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          • Why do you keep repeating the phrase "got it!" In all of your paragraphs & edits? It's so out of place. I don't get what you're trying to convey to us.

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          • Middle school is a tough period in life. Don't worry, it gets better.

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          • The community is filled with a bunch of whinny bitches.

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