Doctor who is just a terrible show

Neither doctor wins

Gonna drop this again, as the Dalek fanbois need to be [i]exterminated.[/i] Not really, but I couldn't resist the opportunity to say "exterminate". You think Daleks will win? Fine. Cool. But here are some counterpoints: [quote] -The Dreadnaught is over 100 miles long. Having another ship crashed into it by the Cabal barely even poked a hole in it. It possesses an energy-pulsewave weapon that was powerful enough to vaporize almost all the way through the rings of Saturn, which are over 40,000 miles wide. That's nearly 4 times as thick as the Earth. Any attempt to board it by ship will end in Dalek "extermination". -The Hive may not be a match for the Daleks in shear temporal manipulation, but they are reality-warpers. They can manifest their ships anywhere pretty much instantly, in this dimension, and in others. This means that the Daleks won't have any of the safe havens they're used to. Nowhere, the Crucible included, will be safe. -Because of the above fact, the Reality Bomb will not be an issue. It will be quickly destroyed or dismantled by the Hive, or, at the very least, rendered inoperable when the Hive break into the Crucible and cause bedlam. Unless you want to argue that the Dalek will simply shrug and detonate it anyway, destroying themselves as well as the Hive in the process. Guess that would be a valid point, though the end result would be a stalemate. -Crota, considered a "child" by Hive standards, was capable of destroying a hemisphere of the moon, killing tens of thousands of Guardians, and building his own reality. I will reiterate; Crota is a child next to Oryx and the others of the Hive pantheon. They will all have reality-warping powers far above his. In addition to the offensive power to turn the Daleks into tin and mush very quickly, Crota is completely impervious to physical attack in the world above. He alone will be a spearhead before which the Daleks will falter and wilt. -Oryx is capable of bending opponents to his will. This ability works on anyone without Light. It works on biological races such as the Cabal and Fallen, it works on machines such as the Vex, and Oryx is even shown using it on fellow Hive who failed to protect his son. This ability WILL work on the Dalek. And once a few are corrupted? It'll be a snowball effect. The Daleks' own strength and special abilities will be turned on them to a progressively greater degree each time they endeavor to take out Oryx. -There are not "trillions" of Daleks as you tried to say. There are billions. Putting those two numbers in the same sentence as upper and lower limits is totally ridiculous. Do you have any idea how big of a number a trillion is? A thousand orders of a billion. There aren't even close to that many Dalek. -Timelocking the Hive is gonna be kinda difficult, seeing as they can move in and out of different realities, including their own personal realities, at will. And Hive gods such as Crota and Oryx are capable as surviving as disembodied souls without bodies, if the Dalek do somehow successfuly timelock them. And once again, it'd be useless to toss Crota into a star or black-hole. He'd just sit in there annoyed and pissed off, until he eventually got out. Oryx may have similar abilities to resist ordinary forms of damage. -The Hive have other strategically valuable champions that would be extremely difficult for the Daleks to fight. Gulrot, for example, would slow the Daleks to the point of being pretty much unable to move, making them very, very easy targets. While Dalek can fly at a rather sluggish pace (ok, it isn't always sluggish but they're not exactly fighter-jets) many still choose or are designed exclusively to move along the ground. This would render them completely unable to battle Urrox The Flame Prince. They would be melted into inoperability within seconds. And Ir Yut is capable of literally singing vast quantities of enemies to death. If she were any position where she was at all protected (song only takes 2 minutes), she'd be capable of completely eliminating vast swaths of Dalek at a time. The Guardians were only able to destroy her so easily because they sorta caught the Hive without Crota leading them by surprise in the Abyss. -While Dalek weaponry would likely obliterate Thrall and Acolytes in a single shot, Wizards and Knights would both be capable of tanking at least one shot. One can calculate the durability of the Hive and the Guardians they fight thusly; the Khostokov assault-rifle is a weapon meant to be from our current day. Comparable to something such as the AK. It does 20 damage. That is 1/18th the damage of the weapons the Guardians wield in battle. So it would take an entire CLIP of modern ammunition to equal a single shot from one weapon in Destiny. This means that while the Dalek weapons would still be powerful enough to destroy Hive and their armor and shields would still be durable enough to resist hits, they would NOT be the tanky juggernauts we're used to in the Whoniverse. A couple strikes from a Knight's sword would cripple or kill a Dalek. A few volleys of wizardfire or Boomer-shots would similary obliterate a Dalek. While the Dalek could likely kill Thrall all day in their sleep, the power of the ferocious knights and the wily, cunning Wizards would be an easy match for Daleks in small-scale firefights and ground-based conflict. -Hive-presense in general is very toxic. Both physically and on a psychological level. Daleks deployed in Hive-dominated areas for any length of time would experience health-problems, and many would likely go mad, perhaos even turning agains their own. If their fel power drives Guardians, beings protected by the opposing and shielding power of the Light to madness, it would be several times more effective on the Lightless Dalek.[/quote]

Who the hell cares about the Hive. Daleks vs Atheon Cannot pick up relic! Explain! Explain!

Daleks are more stupid than the hive.. Just saying.

This isn't even a fair fight. Daleks vs Vex is mich better. In fact it wouldn't surprise me of the Vex were inspired by Daleks.

Anyone who's voting for the Hive has absolutely no idea what a Dalek is...

This forums is Desticles vs whovians The ultimate rage inducing people Vs the nerdy people who watch tv Daleks vs cybermen Seems legit

what are the daleks

The hive are undead... Who's souls keep coming back.... Who have seen thousands of planets fall to the darkness. Daleks have trouble with stairs.....

I'm just gonna vote Hive because I've never seen Doctor Who. And besides, everyone knows that Doctor Who is for faggôts. Edit : Came here to rustle some jimmies and my mission is accomplished.

Daleks > Everything Except Maybe cybermen. Or angels...

You dare question the ability of the mighty Daleks? [b]EXTERMINATE[/b] [b]EXTERMINATE[/b]

DALEKS RAIGN SUPREME

You mean those robots that have plungers as hands? If we involved the taken with dalek. The taken would win due to one factor. The ability to take a soul and use it against the enemy. If it was the hive, there would be some competition

What's a dalek

Ive never seen dr who and it seems nerdy af so the hive