Can't decide which Both arc Both surplus However: jolder's has field scout with 50 mag and btrd has 46 Jolder's and btrd have about the same ammo however btrd has 160 and something while jolder's 153 Jolder's has slightly more impact as btrd Btrd has 2x more ROF than slightly more impact jolder's has Btrd has 2x stability as jolder's however isn't that useful since it is a low RoF machinegun Btrd has a little bit more range Btrd has feeding frenzy on pre-how weapons feeding frenzy is the main perk I have skip rounds available on btrd so more impact and ammo Jolder's has faster reload by a fair bit Also does casket mag increase total reserve?