The point of this post is that if you aren't using these weapons right now for competitive(tryhard) play you are at a disadvantage regardless of how good you are with a weapon these weapons statistically speaking are able to change the tides of battle, why would you gimp yourself by using something else? Also this was satire but the tag doesn't work... its true everyone knows its true and it'll still be true when the weapon patch hits its not going to fix everything so much for the weapon variety no gun you list will beat the damage per round on thorn or TLW. Atimise Flare's been really cool about this find his comment and bump it they have some incredible insight(I mean its things that should be common sense but I've seen and done (quite frequently to my detriment) many of the things they talk about like using weapons outside their optimal range (like rushing with red death when I should be using a shotty or trying to snipe with hand cannons)