I used to defend this gun when I played Destiny on PS4. Just recently bought Destiny on Xbox One and I was playing Crucible tonight. I haven't had the opportunity to earn many exotic weapons except for Hard Light from the Queens Chest. Just about every match I played was full of Thorn hiders and it was a pain in the ass trying to counter that gun without anything to counter with. That and there still appears to be lag happy bitches too.