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Religion Is Just A Fabrication Of The Human Imagination. Here's Why...

First and foremost I wanna layout some ground rules, everyone has their own thoughts or opinions on religion; some of you believe in God some of you don't, some of you are Christian, Jewish, Muslim, Hindu, Jehovah's Witness or you still pray to motherf*cking Santa Claus! Either way, at no point in my upcoming answer am I looking to change, convert or alter anyone's belief system. Now to understand religion you have to analyse it's origins, and not many people know its actual emergence, people argue incessantly about their religion being superior but they never explain how their religion started in the first place. While each religion has their individual beginning according to their own teachings, the foundation of religion is generally agreed upon a common principle by historians, which is starter religions in ancient times (well before current religions existed) were created by humans to explain things that couldn't be explained due to technological restraints at the time; the crux of how all ancient religions were created is due to that simple reasoning. For example let's look back on Ancient Egyptians, they couldn't explain natural events such as the sun and the moon so they were treated as Gods (Ra and Khonsu respectively), they didn't understand death so they had Osiris as Lord of the Underworld followed by Anubis as the Protector of Graves or how thunder occurred so Horus was worshipped. And in each instance, Pharaohs were chosen based on the self proclaimed ability to speak directly to the Gods, does this seem familiar? Of course it should as most religions have followed this structure throughout human history! All religions were created to explain certain phenomenons humans couldn't comprehend and each religion designated a leader or speaker if you will; someone who had the presumed capability to communicate with the God of that individual religion, that particular person typically had a major role in his/her respective religion and a large amount of influence over it's actions. Such as the Ecumenical Patriarch for Orthodox Christianity and the Pope for Roman Catholicism, relatively the same concept. As it stands now, historians have uncovered 1300 religions created by humans including the current ones that we have today and over 2100 different deities. Now think about these numbers for a second, for those of you who follow a religion in which part of your creed is the worship of only one God, why do we have over 1300 religions and 2000 other potential Gods? Are you gonna tell me YOUR God is real and the other Gods are fake? Are you gonna say that YOUR religious beliefs are true and the other beliefs are false? You believe YOUR religion is better just because other religions were wiped out? All for different reasons, whether it was war or civilizations just died out, what remained of the few religions were destroyed in following events: Various religions were destroyed by the Roman Empire during their conquests, Mayan culture was completely eradicated during the inquisition, Native American beliefs were suppressed by Europeans when they found America etc. Things that were considered Godlike during that time period such as weather, fertility, death, sun, moon, the four seasons. Are now relatively straightforward now thanks to science and technology, so ask yourselves this: What does your religion tell you as to how it got started? There's a good chance that your religion will tell you that your God created your religion, though he didn't tell you directly but your religious motherf*cker who tells you to pray everyday told you so and he has to be legit right? Meanwhile history proves (with tangible evidence) that religion was created by naive and primitive humans who couldn't explain something, and the ideology of a greater power being responsible for said thing. Whether you want to agree with this or not, whether you want to actually look at the reasoning behind religion, you can't deny the irrefutable evidence. From the most followed religions all the way down to groups we would consider cults: all formed on the basis of explaining the unexplainable. In addition, to all the people who refer to the Bible as sufficient evidence you do realise that the Bible had to be translated several times throughout history; you really didn't think there would be any discrepancies? Finally, I just want to say I don't give a flying f*ck what you believe in or what you don't, I really don't, you believe in whatever you want to believe in as it doesn't affect me. I don't even care if you think everything that I just wrote is a load of bullsh*t, though I can say have a very fun time trying to prove me wrong; you will be spending hours on Wikipedia alone motherf*cker! The reason why I am being so blunt, is that if other people had the same mentality as I did how many wars would have been averted? How many pointless conflicts would have never occurred? All caused due to the volatile nature of religions in which what they believe is true, and what other's believe is false. The reality is religion was never discovered or bestowed upon us by Gods, it was created by humans, and as a result it has influenced people drastically since the preconceived notion came to existence.

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    • But you're a cone

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      • You're a cone.

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        • I don't need several hours of Wikipedia to refute your argument. I just need a little basic classical logic/ mathematics. Suppose you have the following propositions: P:1 Humans have created deities to explain natural phenomena they could not explain. (A) Much natural phenomena can be explained. Now, your argument can be phrased as this: Natural phenomena can eventually be explained (A), therefore gods are false (B). This is a simple conditional statement, which must follow the structure of: A---->B A Therefore, B. Now, a funny thing about logic is that you can also take the contrapositive of a conditional statement. That means you flip the values, making both propositions false and inverting the statement. A contrapositive is the equivalent of the original conditional statement, and can be used to test validity. The framework of a contra positive is (not) A--> (not) B (Not) A Therefore, (not b) So, the contra positive of your statement is: If gods are real (C) there are natural phenomena that cannot be explained (D). It doesn't matter if god is real or not, the statement is still true. So, let's try to prove your statement via contradiction. Contradiction takes the form of -A&A or -B&B. So, let's assume that if natural phenomena can be explained, then God is real. We already proven that most natural phenomena is explainable, by conditional proof, God must be real. Gods/God cannot be real and not real. This goes against the laws of logic. Contradiction, Therefore, your argument is not valid. Your argument is actually the counter proposal to Pascal's Wager. However, you are trying to bring facts into logic. There is no such thing as fact in philosophy, only true and false assumptions. The brightest minds and mathematicians in history have debated the question of the existence of God/God's. Aquinas, Pluto, Descartes, Pascal, and many, many more. You essentially cannot argue for or against the existence of God. The logic will always be circular, or contradicting. Do not propose that what you deem to be facts will suffice to rule this argument. That's an insult to the geniuses whom dedicated their lives to it.

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          • >expecting troll or deez nuts >DISAPPOINTED

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          • I hate religion. And when I say hate, I don't mean 'oh I hate that boss fight', I mean I want to kill it and purge it from this would. And if there is a god, he is a -blam!-.

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          • It's not imagination, it's delusion. [spoiler]Also shut up, cone.[/spoiler]

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            • As I said originally before you bumped this, everything in society is a fabrication. Money has no actual value, we give it that value. The Constitution holds no actual power over us, we gave it that power. Its part of a social contract that we all subconsciously agree to, and religion is a part that. And to blame conflicts because of religion is flawed because its people that partake in those conflicts. Religion is simply the the excuse. Greek city states, believed in the the same gods fought because of political reasons or greed, the 100 years war was fought over whether or not someone could rule France, the crusades despite their religious reputation was just a land and money grab("reclaiming the holy land" was just to rally soldiers). Yes religion was meant to control but so is every law book in the world but no one seem be as concerned about that. And yes a lot of the stuff in the Bible, Koran,Torah, etc is barbaric for moderns times but are no longer followed and yet we still torture prisoners in some parts of the "Civilized "world. And yes corruption exists in religion, as well as every other organized institution(Congress). Bashing religion is just the trendy thing to do now.

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              • Who are you to spout your opinions? You're a cone

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                • It was made for reassurance. Something to lean on in dark times where crops wouldn't grow and your family were in danger. It provided safety, explanations and an excuse to fight anyone without the same opinions. To me, what I call 'Spiritual religions' shouldn't really have [u]much[/u] relevance in the 21st Century but instead we should try and work better together and look at some of the moral teachings those religions hold.

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                  • I love how Christians say the bible is proof of gods existence. Cause if that's true, then cat in the hat is real as well

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                  • Of course it's a fabrication. Religion was just created to explain things that humans couldn't, as well as passing the blame onto something other than their own actions.

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                    • I don't think God is real lol

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                    • Edited by U6757109: 8/23/2015 4:53:43 AM
                      Christianity is not special. There are thousands of religions, many of which are older.

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                    • Everything can be considered a fabrication of human imagination. The device your reading this on right now is a product of it.

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                      That's alright at least I have something to believe in

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                      • [quote]how many wars could have been averted[/quote] None. We're human, we'd have found some other reason to kill each other. Nice post btw.

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                        • Just came to say I liked your rhyming title.

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                        • B8! B8! B8! B8! B8! B8! B8! B8! B8! B8! B8! B8! B8! B8! B8! B8! B8! B8! B8! B8! B8! B8! B8! B8! B8! B8! B8! B8! B8! B8! B8! B8! B8! B8! B8! B8! B8! B8! B8! B8! B8! B8! B8! B8! B8! B8! B8! B8! B8! B8! B8! B8! B8! B8! B8! B8! B8! B8! B8! B8!

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                        • B U M P

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                        • Tl;dr

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                        • You know it's posts like these that are the reason offtopic isnt as amazing as it once was.

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                          • Love how I post this: Ninja Removal Someone else: Nah, it's religion.

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                          • Not really; Its a system crafted to control knowledge and belief systems of a people

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