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Edited by Semperfi1999: 8/5/2015 12:30:56 PM
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This again? Really? How many people are going to complain about the same thing while also showing they have no understanding of capitalism....company investments....or how competition works in the market place. First off......just because you are a gamer you are not entitled to play something just because you want it. You must purchase the correct items to be able to play some games or have some content. Secondly MS started this specific type of competition in COD/Skyrim....and other games. Why don't you go to MS and ask them why they started the gaming industry down this specific road for company competition? Thirdly Sony paid money to Bungie as part of the contract Sony was the only company allowed to advertise Destiny for their system......AND they also got special kick backs from bungie for their gamers as an incentive for those gamers to play Destiny on the PS4 rather than on the Xbone. In reality its the Sony gamers who should be complaining that MS gamers even get access to the content after a year......Sony was very generous to allow that in the contract. Finally....this is all about free market competition. Companies are allowed to compete in ways that attempt to make their product the more desirable one for a certain market. In this case Sony chose Destiny and MS chose Titanfall........Sony ended up making the right choice while Titanfall became Titanfail because most people stopped playing after a short time because the PVP aspect of the game was seriously gimped. Also Bungie did not insult half of their playerbase....incase you have not been paying any attention there are about 2 PS4s for every 1 Xbone. At best your argument would be that they insulted 33% of their playerbase. Your argument is bad and is based on pure emotion and what you "feel entitled to" as a gamer. Well as a gamer I can "feel entitled" to play Halo but if I don't purchase a MS product then I wont be allowed the opportunity to play this game even if I feel entitled as a gamer to play said game. It is fair and proper business practices for a company to try to provide an incentive to purchase their product over their competitors.... if you call a carpet cleaner to come clean your carpet and they offer to also clean the windows and the exterior of your home as an incentive to use them then a customer who chooses to use a competitor CANNOT complain that it is not fair you got this deal from this company because they did not get this same deal from the company they chose. It would also be ridiculous for that customer to then state it is unethical and bad business practice for one company to offer a better deal than the other and in fact both carpet cleaners should be forced to offer the exact same services at the exact same prices. Instead what you should be is a smart consumer. You need to look for and recognize deals when you see them and if you choose to forego said deal then that is a decision that you as a consumer have chosen. TLDR: Learn to be a smarter consumer or face the consequences of always getting less for your money.
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  • Finally and well said good sir or madam. These jokers just don't get it.

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  • Smarter consumer? Yeah, screw that. I'm not buying Destiny on PlayStation because none of my friends have a PlayStation. That would cause you to be a dumb consumer: Letting timed exclusives get in the way of you and your friends enjoying the game together.

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  • Edited by Semperfi1999: 8/7/2015 2:15:00 PM
    in your case yes. You are correct. I was not making a blanket statement that your only a smart consumer if you buy Destiny on playstation. But if exclusives mean so much to the OP that they post about it then maybe in his situation the smarter decision would have been to go with playstation. The smarter consumer comment is meant more as a tongue in cheek comment anyway relating more to the past paragraph in my post and being a very underdeveloped statement to imply what I actually wrote.

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  • Thank you

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  • Smarter consumer? Didn't read the boring ass wall of text but I sure as hell know that buying a Playstation is [i]not[/i] being a smarter consumer.

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  • You see one sentence and without reading the rest you bitch about it. Thats not what was said/meant. Never mind becoming a smarter customer, you should start with getting smart in general

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  • My intelligence obviously outmatches yours if you try to insult mine based on laziness rather than evidence. I don't need to insult yours though, you buying a Playstation has done so enough.

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  • Lol you just pretty much confirmed being an idiot. Go back to school kid, muted, dont need to read this minddumbing bullshit

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  • When outmatched by intelligence in an argument, mute.

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  • And you didn't respond to my comment because?

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  • Ok do you didn't read the actual information and instead you read the tongue in cheek TLDR and claim that buying a Playstation is not being a smart consumer because????? I would argue purchasing a Xbone is not being a smart consumer and in the end the argument would concentrate more on our opinions regarding which games the consoles have. I find a majority of Xbone exclusive games suck....like suck hardcore. So why would I consider this a smart decision to purchase? PS is cheaper...more powerful...designed as an actual gaming console vs Xbone which was originally designed as a cable box that can (oh yea) play games (per MS conference introducing Xbone they spent the first 45 minutes talking about everything but games). Now I would also state that MS has taken steps to backtrack on this and show the Xbone as more of a gaming console but their original intent still stands. Even the way the OS was made is not game friendly....how long does it take to load and play a game vs PS4? So basically.....what I am saying is read the whole original post or don't bother posting a response because your specific response is something can could be argued either way.

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  • Edited by dbeidbeijfjjjj: 8/7/2015 5:12:05 PM
    Xbox has a more powerful processor. Your argument is invalid. (Power is a broad term. You meant graphics I bet) It dedicates more RAM towards games and not software unlike Playstation. Not more powerful and they don't even invest that power correctly, your power argument again is invalid. Our exclusives are actually big titles, and don't suck cock like Playstation exclusives. You can now pay $400, or $350 with a sale for an Xbone. Price argument is invalid. Also, compare the Xbox One and Playstation 4 standard headset/mic. One is a decent headset with an adjustable mic, one is a half earbud with a dangling mic in the wire. HDMI cables. The Xbox comes with a thick, wrapped quality HDMI cord, the PS has some cheap, flimsy little excuse. Only the controllers are both equal. I guess the difference in quality from American to Japan is apparent, hence why one company is going down the drain and one isn't. Happy I replied now?

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  • Edited by Semperfi1999: 8/7/2015 6:01:38 PM
    Price has recently come down so if your argument is on price that would not apply to anyone who purchased the consoles originally. Regarding the power argument I see you prefer to piecemeal it and attempt to argue more power based on breaking everything down and not how it works as a whole. As a whole the PS4 is more powerful. The CPU on the Xbox is more powerful but their RAM is slower. You state it dedicates more RAM to games (.5 gig) and yet ignore the fact that there is a 1 gig flex memory that can be made available which gives PS4 the same (.5 gig) advantage only with faster RAM. The GPU on the PS4 is significantly more powerful than the Xbox with a 1.84 teraflops vs a 1.31...now Xbox has attempted to shorten this gap but that remains to be seen how much difference this makes. http://www.techradar.com/us/news/gaming/consoles/ps4-vs-xbox-720-which-is-better-1127315/7 Basically all exclusives for Xbox are bad (but as I stated this is a matter of opinion). Personally the only Xbox exclusive that even seems interesting is Halo but other than that....nothing. Meanwhile PS4 has Uncharted 4, LOU 2 confirmed to be in development, bloodborne.....I could go on but needless to say my personal opinion is the number of good games on PS4 makes the Xbone look like a joke in comparison. (but this is all opinion based on preferred game types so arguments on this basis as an attempt to lend an objective determination are worthless) Your really trying to argue based on headset? Lets get this straight....both headsets that come with the consoles suck. if you don't believe this then you need to see what a real headset is like. regarding the HDMI cord....sure you can argue for this I guess you can also argue that the brick in the cord is a better build for the power supply as well if you wish. In the end it makes you appear to be grasping at straws....besides I always buy HDMI cords at monoprice with the heavy duty nylon cord construction if you want durability this puts anything else you will likely see to shame. Pretty much every single tech person who had rv'd these two consoles all agree that by and large the hardware specs are very similar between the two consoles so there is no clear winner but if one had to be chosen based on tech as a whole PS4 eeks out the win. Now this should never be the entire basis on why you choose a console system in the first place. So while it may be true if it is a checkmark it is a very small checkmark compared to the bigger ones such as games types you enjoy....friends....etc.

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  • [quote]Xbox has a more powerful processor. Your argument is invalid. (Power is a broad term. You meant graphics I bet) It dedicates more RAM towards games and not software unlike Playstation. Not more powerful and they don't even invest that power correctly, your power argument again is invalid. Our exclusives are actually big titles, and don't suck cock like Playstation exclusives. You can now pay $400, or $350 with a sale for an Xbone. Price argument is invalid. Also, compare the Xbox One and Playstation 4 standard headset/mic. One is a decent headset with an adjustable mic, one is a half earbud with a dangling mic in the wire. HDMI cables. The Xbox comes with a thick, wrapped quality HDMI cord, the PS has some cheap, flimsy little excuse. Only the controllers are both equal. Oh, that one time of massive DDOS attacks on Christmas? Which company's servers were down almost week and which were down bately two days? The answer is obvious. I guess the difference in quality from American to Japan is apparent, hence why one company is going down the drain and one isn't. Happy I replied now?[/quote]

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  • Learn to be a smarter consumer? How does that apply to destiny? Should I buy a playstation to get content I am locked out of? Is the how to be a smarter consumer?

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  • Edited by Semperfi1999: 8/7/2015 2:18:33 PM
    How does that apply? Simple....if you wanted the destiny exclusives you should have considered this in the purchase of the console that you originally chose. This information was released way in advance of the game coming out. If you had already purchased your console before the information was released then you had already made your choice unless you wanted both consoles anyway. The idea of the smart consumer is to consider everything in your purchase before you make the said purchase but you do this with the understanding that your knowledge on a product cannot be perfect so you do research and attempt to be a smart as possible in your purchases balancing out cost to benefit ratios on whether the price is worth it. If you decided on Xbox (especially after the information was available) then you decided that the benefit of having an xbox for other games outweighed the benefit of the exclusives for this game. If this is not how to approach your purchases (especially large purchases) then you will always be taken advantage of. Hence the learn to be a smarter consumer. Which was actually more of a tongue in cheek TLDR based on my complete statement but with a heavier weight from my last paragraph. If you didn't read my entire post and only the TLDR and then commented well.....then you wouldn't get how underdeveloped the TLDR is in comparison.

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  • Edited by Novastone: 8/7/2015 11:52:29 AM
    This person knows and thank you at least their few people who actually understand why there is exclusive content.

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  • Um, about the skyrim/cod point, yes they bought early access for cod but Bethesda said they were just going to release the goty edition for skyrim (and this even happened to oblivion) for play station not because Xbox bought early access but because they hated the psn store.

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  • Doesn't really matter what Bethesda's reasoning or argument for why they did what they did was. The fact is this was done by MS and this specific area of gaming exclusivity where a console for X period of time gets DLC or special items was started by MS. Even if the first few developers argue well we weren't going to give that stuff to playstation anyway and we were also able to get MS to give us money for what we were already going to do....this practice changed the exclusivity industry to include not just an entire game but also potentially certain aspects of a game that is on all systems to where 1 console has a distinct advantage in value. Personally I don't think there is anything necessarily wrong with this but for the OP to come here and complain making it seem that Sony started this practice when as an Xbox gamer he enjoyed the first fruits of this practice when it began is disingenuous.

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  • There were exclusives for pc and play station before Xbox was on the market, not to mention Nintendo, but I do see where you're coming from. However, if we see destiny 2 with play station exclusives that last another year there will be a pretty major drop off in popularity with this game, I'm not saying that play station shouldn't get some timed exclusives but a friggen year? That's way too long, that has to be the longest exclusive wait to date and people are already sick of it.

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  • Yea by exclusives I was not trying to imply exclusive games...that has been here since consoles were first made. But the exclusive content specific to a console is a relatively new idea in the gaming industry. Also a year long wait....you heard that tombraider is Xbone exclusive for a whole year right? Like the entire game. So each company has decided to focus on specific games it just so happens that MS decided against Destiny while Sony sided with destiny. Complaining about what your system sided with to the developer......well lets just say there is no point.

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  • Holy crap, no I didn't hear about that what a load of crap. The new tomb raider or was that the old one?

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  • The new tombraider coming out is xbox exclusive for a year then they will release it on ps4.

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  • This And thank you for having a rational mind, not much of that left around here anymore

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  • You are ................an arsehole.

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