To be honest reading these posts i have to agree with most of them You dont need an emblem dont need to have thorn dont need this etc. People who require these should just quit destiny becuase they are not what you call adapted to different scenarios and game plays. .. I myself have been through flawless countless times but that doesnt bother me i ebjoy playing trials even if i make to 8 wins i get 2 etheric lights. I will play trials with anyone on PS4 i dont care even if you had green guns. :-) Its a game people need to get of their high horse about needing all the best gear to compete. .. Yes my K/D ration is ok but least i can hold my own out there. Yes my fav gun was thorn but now i use hawkmoon.