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Edited by AtomskMaikeru: 8/4/2015 3:43:22 PM
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Do you think PvP will be dominated by another weapon after 2.0?

Hard Light

171

Nechrochasm

76

Monte Carlo

16

Suros Regime

217

Some type of pulse rifle

217

Still be using Thorn, Last Word, Hawkmoon

106

Nothing in particular I think it will be balanced

80

Just wondering if you guys think that a new OP primary weapon will show up and make more people whine again or if there will be a more diverse PvP experience without everyone using the same weapons i.e. Thorn, Last Word etc. Personally I'm going to be using Nechrochasm after the buff. Crazy high fire rate and more stability yes please. What do you guys think? Edit 1: Thanks for all the replies guys! I really like seeing people being positive about the weapon changes instead of "Oh no I can't two shot someone with thorn da faq?" Nice to see people excited for some diversity in a game type saturated with stale weapons used all the time haha.
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  • I can't really envision crucible without popular (OP) weapons. I think they are tuning those OP's down and that they (or some other small group of weapons) will still be used mug more heavily in crucible. The map of weapon popularity has been in constant flux. Thorn is really the only weapon that has held is place so long and so strong. I think the nerf will allow other, longer time to kill, guns to be used more often for their abilities, like Monte Carlo and bad juju etc.

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  • I personally think mida will reign supreme.

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  • No land beyond anyone?

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  • Probably pulse rifles and autos.

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  • Hopscotch pilgrim

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  • At this point I don't really care, all I know is I'll still be destroying them with NLB

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  • I REALLY hope that they balanced this PvP crap with 2.0. But I think Hardlight, or maybe Suros Regime will dominate.... :/

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  • Pulses, autos and scouts will be dominating is what I think.

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    • Probably a gun we don't know exists yet

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    • Mida that's funny 8% think the game will be balanced must be newbies

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    • Edited by SWPiedrahita: 8/4/2015 4:39:32 PM
      Where is mida?

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    • I said pulse but I think high RoF and low impact ARs will be really good

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    • Low key last word buff

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    • Edited by Un1337ninj4: 8/4/2015 3:53:32 PM
      [b]Pulses[/b] I'm interested to know if the High Impact models are included in their mid-RoF damage hit. [b]Autos[/b] Contrary to popular belief, if you read the notes Hard Light Projectiles are specified: [quote]Increase bounce count for Hard Light projectiles Hard Light projectiles are not affected by Damage Falloff[/quote] I think it's safe to say they're only talking about the bounced projectiles when it comes to no fall off. That said, Hard Light/Monte will have a .99s body hit TTK, the only thing that exceeds this in the Primary category is TLW, that said the .81s TTK crits it'll rock with Agg-Ballistics is far from OP. Unless you get pissed off when Gheleon's Demise kills you. Suros will be rocking .95s crits, but it'll be the best for Ranged encounters and have the best ammo economy in PvE. Necro's going to be at .77s crits, this with my 53% precision kill ratio without the stability and mag increases and I'm excited to say the least. [b]E-HandCs[/b] TLW will still reign supreme in all CQC-might-as-well-be-a-Shotty quarters. Thorn will require one crit and two body hits or two crits and one body hit. But the real kicker is you're still forcing him to cover to heal. [b]Closing thoughts[/b] Overall it looks like we'll have actual options! I love it. By reducing the necessity of the Exotic primary we get to have more E-Specials like 4th Horseman. We get to actually loadout for our playstyle instead of the "Dis gun kills faster but forces me out of what I like doing." mentality.

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      • The fact that hardlight is that high makes me laugh.

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        • No clue which weapon or perk it will be next, but Bungie has proven that they don't have the knowledge needed to properly balance weapons.

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        • Monte Carlo is seriously underrated IMO

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          • I always mained and will always main a handcannon.

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          • I don't really care as long as we actually have somewhat of a firefight in crucible. I hate getting hit by 1 HC round and I'm almost dead and if I get hit by another chances are I am dead.

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          • Pvp will always be dominated by 1 weapon no matter what.

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          • Of course. It's nature that there will be an op weapon that everyone will use. Which one? We don't know exactly yet but I have a feeling it could be MIDA...but we shall see.

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          • Probably Hawkmoon, considering the magazine nerf to hand cannons. Thorn (and maybe TLW, depending on how bad the magazine nerf is) will still be top tier, just not as overpowered as before. High impact pulses will be great until everyone realizes they can avoid getting 2-shotted by running high armor, and then they'll probably move down to mid tier. Auto rifles will be viable again, and scout rifles will be viable now that they aren't outperformed by hand cannons 97% of the time. So as far as primaries go....they'll be pretty balanced. Secondaries on the other hand...not so much. Fusion rifles are getting nerfed again, particularly the high impact ones, which were the only viable options in PvP. We can kiss fusions goodbye until the next weapon patch 6 months after TTK. Sniper rifles are getting final round taken off of them, which is good, and not too big a nerf to the weapon class as a whole. Shotguns are still going to be the kings of PvP. A 30% nerf to shot package is not enough to convince me to use my shotguns less.

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            • Hc fanboys please go away, I'm so sick of one to two shit kill primaries. Please bring autos back....

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              • Edited by NinjaJohnno: 8/4/2015 3:41:42 PM
                PR's will be mean in 2.0, they are pretty nasty now. AR changes we shall see, they need the love though lets hope they are viable. TLW I think this will destroy at close range, but that is where this gun is meant to excel, Thorn I have concerns that it will still be very very strong. I would rather they took baby steps, then make changes to most gun types in one go, I think making changes to HC's and AR's should've happened in 2.0 with a look to see where PR's are and make a fast adjustment if required. I know they wanted to make Pvp more diverse, but to many broad changes could cause more issues.

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              • Thorn will still be top tier unfortunately

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