I have hopscotch pilgrim grinded tons for strikes to get it spent 27k of glimmer and whatever the motes and weapon parts to get the roll I wanted it's a good gun it can be a great gun in the right situation ( mid to long range) but when that situation changes from mid to close range like out of shotgun range you die thing doesn't shoot fast enough for me. Started my iron banner run using it and got super frustrated, some maps great other maps terrible. Thorn is what I'm using it works great everywhere. If you're highly skilled you can wreck with any gun, it's not the gun it's the user!!!