It would suck yes. Doesn't mean I'm getting rid of them. You never know what might happen. One day they decide to make them legit again and I'll be one of the select few to still have their original shit. I understand why people don't want them to ascend. Weapons like vision and fate are really good for almost anything you do. They have lots of time left so maybe instead of making guns die off they should just make ones that are better or at least equal. I mean come on. Your telling me a hand cannon with firefly and arc is really going to make things one sided? No. I use a variety of weapons as is. In fact every time I play I spend at least 20 minutes trying to decide what combination of things I'm going to use.