reading my entire post probably gives a better vision of what im trying to say here but there's a tldr at the bottom. from the pvp point of view i compare their kdr to mine when im deciding wether i want to play with them or not, usually when i get to know people through the game ill play with them regardless, but when im looking on the forums i use it as in indication wether they know and understand how to play the game and arent just here to cry about things being too hard. for example when a guy with a 2.5 kdr complains about thorn and last word then hes most likely aware and understands the reasons why hes complaining about them because of them being imbalanced, when a guy with a 1.0 kdr or lower complains about it i can assume that they wouldnt be able to compete with a skilled player anyway, regardless wether he uses the handcannons or something else, hes just going to be better due to his understanding of how to play pvp, how to move around, how to stay alive and thats what kdr really is, being capable of staying alive for a greater amount of kills on 1 death, being able to play the game and do well by yourself instead of having to rely on others to make the game easier for you. now im not saying that a bad pvp player cant understand certain things about pvp, he just lacks the skill, not the intelligence. but most people that come here to the forums and cry about things and they usually both lack skill and intelligence, like those "trials is too hard" threads blaming it on the weapons being used, even tho like i said before a more skilled player will wipe the floor with them regardless of what he uses, however thats difficult to do when the guy that complains about OP weapons usually is using the same weapons himself. both parties using the same weapons, whoever wins the match is simply better be it because of their teamwork, their coördination, their aim, whatever theyre better, yet these people that cry say thats because of the weapons they use wich doesnt make an sense at all therefore they lack intelligence. TL;DR KDR is an indication of what theyre capable of on their own, if its bad then they usually are clueless and just spawn, trade kills(if that even happens), die, repeat. on the forums if the post is well formulated and clearly explains a problem and the reasoning behind why its a problem with possible solutions or changes that actually make sense then i dont care what their kdr is. but thats a thing thats very uncommon on this forum. so kdr is the only real thing that shows how an average game for them progresses ( kdr is still an average, everyone has good and bad games once in a while) and wether they know what theyre talking about if the post isnt what i just mentioned.