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Edited by PUG DREDD: 7/17/2015 8:09:36 PM
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BlackHammer nerf is a joke

I for one agree with most of the nerfs, but the BlackHammer nerf is a total joke. What is the point of a free reload that takes up ammo? There's no use case for this, and even if there were, what would it be? The weapon was perfectly balanced already (in terms of what was nerfed)--PvE boss fights, cheesed or not, never let you get precision shots off ad nauseum without some kind of return fire/risk. I fail to see how this nerf "fixes" anything... it simply makes this gun less appealing 100% of the time. Nobody will use BlackHammer simply to save time on free reloads. They'll use a sniper that does more impact/damage per shot and BH will end up collecting dust/getting dismantled. Is that what you wanted? If there is an actual solution to this "problem", it's to make the weapon into an exotic instead of changing how White Nail works. I'm not bitching because I have one, I'm bitching because this is one of the few nerfs that legitimately makes no sense. Nobody complained about this gun being OP. Nobody was complaining about it in PvP, either. If someone managed to get 3 precision shots off in PvP with BH (repeatedly, I might add), then they deserve a damn medal.

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  • Never cared for the bh.always been an ice breaker kinda guy.nerf the bh already

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  • Edited by TrickyHunt3r: 7/18/2015 3:47:04 PM
    To skip the reload animation is a joke of a reward! Dumbest perk ever now! The Black Hammer was a great PvE sniper that was fun to use on walkers and certain bosses. If it was meant to be exotic, than make it an exotic Bungie. I would rather only 3 bullets in the gun with 0 reserve ammo, than to have to waste ammo on bosses with a dumb reward like no reloading animation. I feel like Bungie and certain people defending this nerf are only saying that it is 1) too good because it is like an exotic, 2) it makes the icebreaker useless (oh btw does not have a reload animation!), and 3) that it makes the game too easy somehow. Well all of those statements are completely incorrect when you actually think about the game. Here is what I think: 1) Easy! Make the gun exotic 2) The IceBreaker will always be useful to clear enemy waves. I always use my IceBreaker to clear out enemy waves before the boss fights. The IceBreaker is still a useful gun. 3) The gun does not make the game easier whatsoever. Everyone thinks that you can sit there and shoot bosses forever and kill the bosses with this gun without losing any ammo. This is somewhat true, however, most bosses you get shot at and it messes up your aim making it hard to land 3 crit hits. The only bosses I would say that you can kill easily are the walkers and the tank on the Mars strike. As for people defending Phogoth and other bosses, you are always under fire unless your two teammates deal with small enemies while one focuses on the boss. I for one think that it is a strategy and not so much making the game easy or breaking a mechanic in the game. Even if all 3 teammates are shooting Black Hammers at a boss, almost all of you will eventually be smacked in the face by a thrall or shot by an enemy making your aim terrible. In the end I believe this was such a dumb nerf and if it was meant to be an exotic, than make it an exotic I can use on bosses. I would switch between the icebreaker and Black Hammer and both would still be very useful. As for making the game easy, that is a joke. It is called strategy and I believe that strategy is something that Bungie does not understand and would rather nerf our strategies to make the game less fun (Only talking about the Black Hammer though). I can honestly say that Black Hammer was a really fun gun to use and it will be missed. I have 3 of them and now all 3 will collect dust on my characters because my vault is full. Hopefully Bungie will return the Black Hammer one day, but as for now..... Goodbye Black Hammer. You will be greatly missed. :(

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    • Leave my black hammer alone you monsters!

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      • Back to ice breaker. BH you will be missed. Thank you for the weapon parts and goodnight. 😂

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        • I'm glad they balanced black hammer, sometimes I fall behind during strikes and the other two people beat the boss before I even get there. Miss out on some resupply codes. Makes me sad. Thank you for fixing this, Bungie. You suck a little bit less now.

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          • Amen to that brother...i thouhgt thecsame with yr comment on 3 head shots in pvp...they wouldvdeserve a metal

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          • Edited by TrickyHunt3r: 7/17/2015 7:59:01 PM
            I couldn't agree more. This was an unnecessary nerf. This gun was one of my favorites and now its somewhat useless. It was completely fine and should not have been touched. Why Bungie???? :( Also please increase the Vault Space!!! Everyone needs more space for upcoming content, so please make an announcement before TTK drops!

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            • Actually the whole concept of nerfing weapons in a loot driven game undermines the point of playing said game IMHO.

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              • Agreed. It's not even a nerf. The whole purpose of this weapon is being taken. It'll be garbage

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              • Well said, guardian.

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              • Now Preydith revenge will be my go to.

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              • Honestly ghorn made me mad but it was going to happen but the -blam!-ing black hammer pissed me off after 50+ raids on 3 characters a week just to get that weapon and a month later after I get it I'm told it will be nerfed to garbage oh and my snip will have one wasted perk because people abused it yeah as far as snipers go I'm mad as hell Ps maxed black hammer to 365 in 4 hours even did Poe to do so Well at least hand conning are getting nerfed cough thorn cough last word cough I destroyed kids using them before with out gunning them but now I'll have no mercy

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              • http://youtu.be/B_5aGZb5ZS4

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              • The goal of the nerf is make more options ice breaker is getting nerf too

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              • Black hammer was the best pve sniper in the game. Now its a unique legendary sniper thats sort of ok. If we get white nail back as an exotic perk on an exotic rifle the bh nerf will make alot more sense. It should have been an exotic in the first place

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                The Black Hammer is designed to deal a continuous amount of damage as long as the wielder exercised timing, damage input control, and a steady hand. This is not easy. The Ice Breaker will still essentially be the Ice Breaker. But the Black Hammer will be Just another sniper rifle. May I suggest LOWERING the amount of ammo held in reserve (3-5 rounds)? This would ensure that the Black Hammer would still be an effective grinding tool for strike bosses, while at the same time challenging guardians to harness the weapons capabilities. Please Bungie!

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                • Black Hammer

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                • I understand certain nerfs but yeah I don't inerrancy the reason of this nerf. The perk of this weapon was great because if you actually had some skill and landed precision shots you were rewarded. Why wouldn't I use praedyths revenge now or something else? Didn't even realize this was an issue.

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                • I agree. But after all the cheese going around about final round lead to this. If final round in pvp is cheese then so is black hammer vs skeptis prime. Or bh vs any warsat spider tank.

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                • The black hammer nerf was not needed at all like come on it has only 3 round and you have to land all three for a free refill that's fine if your going to nerf this free reload then you might aswell nerf the bad juju sure you have to kill the enemy but that's no harder then landing three hits in a row in the same spot this nerf is a bad move and should be taken off the list before a lot of the community gets real mad

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                  • It provides unlimited ammo! It renders the Icebreaker useless. This weapon was only good against bosses who have large crit areas and requires very little skill.

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                    • This is really ridiculous. Look I'm a good sniper and I have two black hammers and I was super excited I finally got a sniper that solidified me as the long range threat I've been waiting for. I've had it a solid two three weeks and believe it or not when under fire from bosses like nexus or phogoth it's hard to keep up with the shots and I'll still miss one. The damn thing has a 15 round clip and this is absolutely dumb. I seriously don't think that the future of the game has me in mind if a weapon I finally got and loved might I add you is taken from me and I'm forced to reroll something stupid like her benevolence.

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                      • Yup. I won't use it anymore. Worst sniper in the game without the white nail perk.

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                      • Edited by Allenes: 7/18/2015 1:25:44 AM
                        The gun felt like an exotic, not a legendary. It's just been brought into line with other legendaries. Anyway, chances are it's going to be obsolete with the launch of the taken king anyway, if they raise the level cap to 30, old weapons aren't going to cut it.

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                      • Edited by SomethingStrange: 7/17/2015 10:30:46 PM
                        Recently got the black hammer, i was very happy and excited until i saw the nerf. Burn bungie, burn, bungie is destroying my interest to the game by doing such nerfs. I bet they will nerf fatebringer too if this continues, wouldn't suprise me...

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