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Edited by ikelofe:
7/16/2015 4:42:50 PM
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Best Hand Cannon for Final round + Braced Frame + Luck in the chamber
Is it Ill will? Fulcrum? Red Hand? Actually, is that the best roll for "Ghetto Hawkmoon" playstyle?
Also, please good rolls for Red Hand and Fulcrum for PVP please.
Thanks!
EDIT: Well.. most people recommended Fulcrum, and I think we have even numbers between Red Hand and Ill Will.
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#Destiny
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Edited by Moon: 7/16/2015 8:31:42 PMI personally use ill will but once I get a HoW timur's lash I'll try that. Does fulcrum two shot with litc? What's its normal crit damage and what's the damage the lucky bullet does?
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I really like mine. Decent at scout rifle range.
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Edited by Totsugeki: 7/16/2015 4:24:21 PMFulcrum is the best. Trust me, I've done the research. [spoiler]fulcrum hits 86 to the head with 114 on lucky/final round. It has a faster rof than Ill Will which hits 95 and 127. Both are kills on most players without a ram. Both are also kills with 1 headshot and 2 body shots. The fulcrum lucky round has to proc on body in order to kill with a throwing knife to the body. The Ill will does not have to hit lucky[/spoiler] [spoiler]statwise fulcrum wins in the reload/stability and range is not usually an issue since all regular maps are cqb[/spoiler] [spoiler]the [b]chance[/b] handcannon is THE best handcannon in the game if you were lucky enough to get it with litc and outlaw[/spoiler] [spoiler]it's also worth noting that old timurs lash can have crowd control which makes it consistently 2shot ppl[/spoiler]
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Reply me for latter! Thnx
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5 RepliesIt's a "poor mans hawk moon", not a "ghetto hawk moon". It doesn't get turned sideways when fired and then dumped down a sewer drain.
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Haven't picked up a fulcrum yet but just looking at the numbers? I'm leaning Fulcrum. I've done the "baby Hawkmoon" roll on Ill Will and Red Hand and wasn't too impressed by either. Ill Will hits like a heart attack but reloads like a drunk trying to play Russian Roulette. Red Hand feels too snappy for the heavyweight archetype, like getting Shia Lebouf when you want Kurt Russell (or watching Transformers when you want Big Trouble in Little China). Legendary HC's are in a tough spot, the exotics are just so much better and it's hard to justify that primary exotic slot with a legendary HC, at least for PvP. Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go watch Hawkmoon. I mean Big Trouble in Little China.
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I have the Fulcrum, Red Hand and Her Mercy all with Luck in the Chamber and Final Round. The middle tree perks are similar to one another. I like Red Hand the best - it's recoil is predictable and smooth. All other stats are similar. I had Ill Will, but dismantled it, since I did not like it as much as the rest.
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If you can get a chance with field scout and those two, it's hawkmoon's little brother with worse range.
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Probably the chance.
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Fulcrum is probably the best because of the fire rate and range built in. I have one of each of those handcannons rolled. I have one equipped on each character if u want to check them out. I have used both the Red Hand and Fulcrum. I like both. Leaning towards the Fulcrum tho because with 6 in the mag, Litc procs more often than the Red Hand plus it has better range. I haven't used the Ill Will yet.
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I think of my fulcrum as the half moon.
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I'll will. I have that role on mine
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I have a rare gun with 5 rounds mag and luck in a chamber :) it's called Nifty_biscuit and it's great :D
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Ill will probs. high impact/low mag makes for alot of 2 shot kills
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Buy the vendor fulcrum. It's a beast
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I have an ill will, didnt like it if you got into any 2v1 scenarios. However I rolled a fulcrum and I love it. Its my go to for normal crucible now.
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Loner.rebel
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1 ReplyI don't see what the fascination is with putting final round and LITC on a hand cannon. I get LiTC but how often do people let their primary get down to the last round. 90% of the time you'll reload before you get there. Even if you stay with 2 left in the chamber you're risking a lot to then get 2 head shots and just hope no one else turns up while you reload a totally empty gun. I know the mini hawk argument but really I think final round is a wasted perk in Pvp primary weapons because you'd rarely use it.
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It's I'll will bro
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Revalator
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hawkmoon
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The loner rebel
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I have fulcrum and red hand with these perks must say I prefer the fulcrum it's mint in pvp
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7 RepliesI have luck in the chamber, final round, and small bore in my ill will. Reload is like FOREVA but with increased reload gloves it's moderately "ok". The thing I like best is it only having 6 shots. This allows for quicker use of luck in the chamber and final round. It's a great weapon because it has a clear weakness (reload & stability) but is nicely offset by its damage potential.
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4 RepliesIn addition, I prefer small bore rather than braced frame
