I don't know but you guys seriously complain so much, I barely even see thorn in regular crucible. I don't play a ton but spent a night playing Skirmish earlier in the week and I saw ZERO thorns in like 6 matches. Seriously guys why the CONSTANT crying, constant complaining, grow up. Thorn isn't even that useful in standard crucible, my lord I was getting killed as much by good pulse rifle users as handcannon users. Grow a set of man nutz you effing babies seriously stop crying nerf and complaining about EVERYTHING. Effing babies. Give these crybaby pu$$ies a thorn nerf so they can plug up their wet woman holes. babies.