First off, I don't play a ton of crucible but your eyesight must be poor because on the two characters I've even bothered to bring into the crucible, I have exactly a 1.0 k/d. That doesn't make me bad or good, just average. Although I don't hate the PVP in Destiny, anyone trying to act like it's fantastic and not wildly unbalanced is an assclown. It doesn't even compare to the upper echelon of PVP in the gaming universe. That crap would never make MLG or have any serious tournaments. Stop acting like those of us that don't prefer it has anything to do with skill. If I cared to be great at it, I easily could. I just find a game dominated by blink-shotgun, slide-shot, and a small handful of weapons not all that interesting. I carried 2.0+ k/d's back when CoD was actually good, and was a beast at Gears without host advantage. Nowadays I prefer PVE and games like Dark Souls. After you've been gaming as long as I have, you realize that unless you get paid to play, k/d is for kids. I'll keep my focus on my next trip to Jamaica with my wife thank you.