I agree that people should stop bitching all the time but I personally don't use most of the weapons u have listed or final round snipers because I'm a skill player and don't need crutches like final round and thorn but I can still out shoot them most of the time because 95% of the time theyr shitty players with an op wepon so its not so ridiculas that u have to use those wepons or that u can't beat them u probably just suck