I'm not bigoted in any way, have played with females and squeakers, the girlies know what they're doing better than half the guys anyway so that's not a problem. Kids can be problematic as I expect half the time they are struggling to concentrate on what is happening and as we all know skill and situational awareness are things that you acquire over time something the young ones haven't had yet. I don't knock them for it though how will they ever learn if you don't allow them to make mistakes or deny them the opportunity of doing it full stop. I think a lot of these "elitist" players have forgotten what gaming is about... Having fun, and before you say it yes I understand that wiping VoG 50 times is no ones idea of fun but sometimes that's just the way it goes.