I've avoided getting into the "nerf this" "nerf that" debate...but Thorn has made the Iron Banner unplayable. I just tried to play a handful of games and almost every single game 3/4 of the people were using Thorn. Was looking forward to this IB, really wanted a Jolder's Hammer...but probably not going to even bother at this point. *Edit 1: Holy crap...never expected to get nearly 700 replies on this... *Edit 2: In response to a bunch of posts; I've tried changing up my load outs a bit, depending on the maps. My main load out is on my Hunter atm. Red Death, Felwinter's Lie (HoW version), and Deviant Gravity-A. The other three weapons I have been switching in and out are equipped on my Titan; Ill Will, Low Grade Humility and Ash Factory. All of the Legendary weapons, imo, have extremely good rolls and have been very helpful in leveling the playing field. This worked pretty well for me this morning when I got into a game of randoms (no full fire teams) or a game where half the team didn't leave before the game was half way over. The main reason I have been using the Deviant Gravity-A over the Ash Factory is to complete the Machine Lord bounty. I need to finish leveling the Ash Factory as I just got that a couple of days ago.