Okay here it goes. Yes this is a rant/complaint about thorn. Your getting the input on a guy who is on ps4 who has been playing pvp since beta. Currently top 25 In the tracker on ps4. Here's the deal. Thorn. It's getting old, it really is. Going into a ToO match is a joke because literally every fireteam you face are all using thorn. This is a call out on good players. Really guys? For all you top 1,000 players using it. Your a joke. Thorn is a crutch weapon. The average Joes should be the only ones using it against skilled players like us. Skilled players shouldn't roll on crutchs because everyone else is using it period. I've never liked thorn and I never will. HAWKMOON. Anyway. Getting back to thorn. It needs to be nerfed already , it does.. A guy put together a based stat on teams who went flawless with Handcannons. 70% used thorn 22 % used last word, and only 8% used hawkmoon. Really destiny community? We're better then that. We are. Letting one gun rule them all is a joke. I suggest a very good way to smooth thorn out. I know alot of you thorn users are like "but tlw and hawkmoon 2 shot! Don't nerf thorn poison, it will be weak!" Here's a solid solution. Don't nerf the damage, don't nerf the poison. Keep it a 2 shot gun so it keeps up with TLW and Hawkmoon. Nerf the stability or the range. Make it a actual challenging gun to use. Instead of the typical 2 heads shots and run away tactic. Bungie get off your lazy arses and take notice to this already. You nerfed auto rifles because they were the most used weapons in the game for a certain period. Look at thorn. The past 3 weeks trails has been Thorns of Osiris. Fix it.
Before any of you tell me to get gud or call me a blink shotgun noob. Yes I do. I abuse my shotgun. Why? Because I have a better chance blink shotgunnin thorn users close/medium range then I do with hawkmoon. Thorns RoT and the poison overwhelm it sometimes. Don't get me wrong I outgun 80% of thorn users but that's usually when it's a 50 meter + gun fight. I just shouldn't burn out after I outgun thorn users.
Okay here comes the thorn defenders! Let the hate flow.
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Okay I see alot of feelings hurt and people crying cause I made the post and they say I'm whining. I don't speak for myself I speak for alot of the community aswell. Don't think this is just another guy complaining about a weapon he died to. I rarely die to it. I'm speaking out for all the players aswell who have a hard time defending themselves against thorners.
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For alot or you guys who can't read aswell. This isn't a cry about 1v1 thorn users. It's about their not being any diversity in the community anymore. So much toxic aswell from you top players in destiny. It's sad
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Wow we're trending 600 replies! Hit that like button and leave a comment. Bump it so bungie actually truly see's this as a problem.!
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And no this is not a ego Booster. I'm not trying to build up my legacy or polish my sweaty forehead. This was just a post letting the community know there are highly skilled players out there who don't use thorn and do know that it is ridiculous. I salute all you non thorn users. Keep it up!
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Don't really care who uses thorn or not I use red death to be honest skill players wouldn't worry about running into a thorn not that I'm hating on anyone or anything....
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Gun is fine
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why you asking skilled players? they dont use thorn
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I never use it. Skilled player here. I don't need it to win.
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TLDR - I hate thorn users cause they are cheap bastards - So I shotgunblink (Also a cheap bastard move) Conclusion? - Total hypocrite.
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Edited by JayTeazyy: 6/28/2015 8:07:51 AM:0 I r rank 795 I r skill? I cri of hapiness [spoiler]lol but seriously, I don't like thorn. I use TLW, jewel, and various other non HC's with my trusty longbow. [/spoiler] I'm also down to 3v3 if your interested. I like playing challenging people, to improve strategy and gun play. PSN: Deaf-from-below0
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1 ReplyOkay, I'm a last word user and thorn really bugs me to be honest, I cannot stand this gun, when I'm playing trials i only ever see this gun, and although I don't blame the users for using it as it's amazing it's just not fun to use, I find myself getting hit one and having to run and hide behind a wall, when u don't face a team of all thorns you will honestly get shocked, everyone uses this gun, and the only counter to it. Is this gun so bungie please NERF the range or something on this gun it is wayyyy to op to exist
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I used to defend the Thorn. Not anymore. It's in every single crucible game I have played for 2-3 months now. They don't seem like they care.
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1 ReplyThis is the only gun I see in the Trials. If Bungie nerfed the AR's because they were overused, then why don't they nerf the Thorn?
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11 RepliesYou should be asking people to stop using a gun in the game because it is good why work hard to only use bad guns that doesn't even make sense? Would all of us using white weapons make you happy?
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TBH if you can't beat them, join them. It will be nerfed so use It while you still can.
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This is my reason why. It's what most players seem to not understand about player vs player game types. One of The only reason hand cannons are so damn powerful is because of the chemical unbalance of weapon types in pvp. Auto rifles counter hand cannons, shotguns counter fusion rifles, pulse rifles counter scout rifles, ect. This is the main problem! By nerfing auto rifles not only have you given hand cannons unstoppable power you have taken out a very important part of equilibrium in this game type. So no, the solution is not in nerfing hand cannons. It's the simple fact that their is now chemical unbalance in the weapon types. Allow me to explain, a hand cannon is short to mid range combat. Hand cannons usally have a slower fire rate with high impact, while auto rifles (used in the same short-mid range combat) has a faster fire rate with a lower impact however, autorifle a can just as easily take down hand cannon users as they would be able to take them down. Just like how pulse rifles can be beaten by scout rifles at mid-long range combat where they beat hancannon users, how shotgun users can easily counter pulse rifle users. It's all about balance so, when it comes down to it all that needs to happen is a autorifle re-buff. This would change so much in player vs player combat.
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4 RepliesIf you didn't come off as someone who holds his Pvp placing as some kind of life accomplishment I would agree with you.
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9 RepliesI think a large percentage of the people that play pvp need to learn the term: strafe
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Agreed.
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Without a doubt, the gun will be addressed. The fact of the matter is that the gun's Ttk is so unbelievably low that in competitive lobbies it makes most weapons irrelevant.
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[b](waiting for suros buff intensifies)[/b]
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Thorn is for skrubs
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[b] [/b]
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Hawkmoon>Thorn. Fix'd
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2 RepliesWell if my squad encounters another group with an all Thorn loadout in skirmish then we put down our NLBs and pull ours out too. Gave them a taste of their medicine. Guns dont make the player. When put on equal grounds, u can truly see who's skilled and who's a scrublord.
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The last word and thorn both need to be nerfed into the ground. Especially the last word. It shouldn't be able to outgun a high impact LMG
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Well the last word is a big issue to. The two guns that can compete with eachother. Both must be patched. If u defend the last word i can see why though.
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I've been known to use Thorn. I don't disagree, it's very easy to use. Hard for me to switch to a different HC after running Thorn because I keep missing. Aim assist is nuts. Range is nuts.