But my question was hypothetical. Of they sold the CE for 80 without including the previous versions of the game. I can definitely see the value for brand new players as it stands now. Seeing how some CEs cost 150 or more and include a 60 dollar game, this $40 expansion with some physical and digital exclusives seems to be fairly priced.

If this were the first collectors edition released, then yes. It would be a gosh darn bargain. But how many "collectors editions" do they plan on releasing? One per year? Is this going to be a thing for them? Plays so nice you'll [i]keep[/i] buying it twice. No ones going to go bankrupt from things like this but that doesn't make it okay. I'm going to end up paying $135 for something people can pay $80 for(and still get more than me apparently, still don't know what ol Deej has cooked up for us), and you paid $175 if not a little more right? Don't know if you bought the first CE or not

I did not buy the first CE because I didn't know if I was going to like the game enough to warrant it. I did take the chance with the digital deluxe edition though. When I looked at everything included I asked myself if I thought it was worth the price without everything I already owned. I guess that my view is that people are blowing this out of proportion simply because they included the previous iterations. The new players are getting a steal of a deal (which is awesome, bigger player base is better) but the year one players aren't getting ripped off. The price point is fair in my opinion.

I'll wait til Deej is slightly more specific on that "something better" we year oners get until I decide if I'm getting ripped off or not. I'm irked at them right now, but not too angry

I gotcha. I do agree with a point that Luke was trying to make (even if he was a bit too crass in the attempt). I got to be a part of the game when everyone was scrambling to figure out VoG, when the loot cave was a thing, and I got an entire year's worth of content that everyone else was actively in as well. If TTK is going to nullify the previous content a bit more than previous expansions then those new players may never experience VoG for example. They may just use that content to level up to get to TTK content. Nothing wrong with that, but I got my $90 worth for the first year. They won't have the same experience with that content. But yes, I'm excited to read the newsletter this week. :)

I did enjoy the time I put into the game with my friends early on. Seeing everything for the first time, being [i]beyond[/i] excited to get my first blue, being a part of the beta with a bunch of other BA level eights, figuring out the raids. The new players will be able to do these things, but it won't be the same for them. I can see the value in it. Anyway, I gotta go to work meow. This has been a productive discussion sir. Enjoy the rest of your day