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Edited by Dranglei:
6/6/2015 4:12:19 PM
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Not the usual "Nerf thorn" thread
I've been looking at ways to deal with thorn without rendering the weapon useless and I've come up with an idea to help become less overpowered and more evened out to compete with other hand canons instead of knocking them off the crucible stage.
The single most complained thing about thorn is the burn. Well a single shot + the duration of the burn renders you weaker than a 2 month old babe. How about if armor and recovery played a role?
High armored guardian vs thorn:
A high armored guardian being hit with thorn upon impact would take the normal damage of the round but the burning affect tick damage would be decreased from 7 to about 2-3 making the burning affect not as powerful but still prevalent.
High recovery guardian vs thorn: a high recovery guardian being hit with thorn would be dealt the normal damage and the burning affect would still do 7 damage per tick but the burning affect will not last as long but rather you will recover from it much quicker than any guardian.
I know this post is long but it's worth a read please bump and select a poll to get this seen.
EDIT: well, clearly some people don't know that difference between someone bitching and someone that actually is trying to help a game rather than deal with a broken facet of the game. Oh well.
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#Destiny
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3 RepliesBest method: make burn unable to actually kill you (always stops at 1 HP), it already shuts down HP recovery for like 40 seconds.
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Just get rid of burn for pvp only. The gun still has good fire rate and recoil. Or make the burn do less damage like 1-3 damage and not 7
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What you don't see is its still bitching. ...it is not your job to suggest weapon fixes....I don't care and neither does bungie...just stop
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Imagine if each classes main stat meant something. Titans are armored tanks, so imagine if they can take a [b][i][u]TON[/u][/i][/b] of health. Imagine the exposure modifier. But, we are still slow and we would have little to no major health regen Warlocks could regen health near instantly, but because of low armor and agility, they take a lot of damage Hunters take damage and have a normal regen rate, but are [i][b][u]EXTREMELY[/u][/b][/i] fast, and are hard to hit. Imagine this^^
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People dont realize that thorn already got ninja nerfed.
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6 RepliesI say it time and time again. Don't nerf thorn just un nerf auto rifle damage, tiny buff to scout rifles and bring back tighter fusion rifle cones. People will start using other weapons again. In most games it seems that auto rifles are goto weapons. I miss being the only guy on the team rocking a hand canon.
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5 RepliesNo just -blam!-ing rebuff autos, a little to scouts and a little to fusions. The Regime of the SUROS will be a major reign of the crucible. Don't nerf just buff autos. If you honestly think it needs a nerf because you're that much of a panzie, then make the DoT happen in random bullets.
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I like the way you think 👍
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1 ReplyEdited by StarGod: 6/6/2015 6:07:50 PMShitty poll options. Armor already does affect it
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I use and love the thorn, but I'm with OP on this one... thorn needs a nerf, but it needs one that won't render it useless as stated above. I feel as if the owner of this thread has devised an extreamly brilliant way to level the thorns PvP use so it's still a formidable opponent, but it won't make other gaurdians shit themselves when they see it coming.
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16 RepliesI Dont even use thorn and there is nothing wrong with it I can only say to all the thorn whinging bitches get gud scrub Get better at the game win the encounters and stop blaming other people cause your shit
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"Nerf or nothing!!!". Bungie be like: "Aight nothing it is"
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"Nerf thorn, buff kunai"
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I'm voting for "Nerf or Nothing" just because it made me laugh. lol
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I think they should slightly reduce the burn effect, it won't be useless because it still has a good impact and is a 2 shot head shot, but at the same time people won't feel helpless against it if the burn is slightly weaker
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I take thorn with a grain of salt. When I use it. Two hit headshots almost never happen and the burn almost never kills. When I'm up against it. 2 shots I'm dead. And the burn seems to kill me at times after one shot from a freshly reloaded gun. So it's whatever really. There are plenty of other great cannons out there I love to play with that 2 shot with a chance of one. Her mercy with luck and final. The devil you know with Zen moment and crowd. Ill will with Zen and luck. That's just to start. I'll pick these over thorn any day. Ill will is my new favorite though. Two shots without burn and they are toast. So I say this. Have some variety people. If they nerf cannons anymore they will have no use in pve . thorn is a great gun in both game modes. I also forgot fate bringer. How could I miss that .
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it needs to be a skilled weapon to allow having the burn and the burn should be on the third or second hit not first to promote skilled shooting and not spam like everyone does. it is OP thats easy to suggest given its current state and the fact that 99% of pvp is thorn which is boring as hell btw. see it this way last word is a CQB god with a little medium range in there given player skilled usage thorn should be a longer range slower firing hand cannon with burn to keep players from rushing (which it already does) with this balance i assume everyone will just revert to last word..
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Nerf or nothing lol
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Just gave the dot scale with range
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No. Just cut the range way down. It would make it situational (like every other gun in the game) rather than universal in application.
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17 RepliesThis is a simple fix. Just take the poison damage off on the pvp side and Thorn will be like every other gun in the game.
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5 RepliesThis community is filled with the largest pool of bitches I've ever witnessed.
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Reduce the dot, increase range drop off (this should apply to all 3 imo), and changeout the "send it" perk. I think that would make the weapon fairly balanced.
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Omg simple fix lower auto-aim/bullet magnetism so its not as long range. Problem solved
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I loved the nerf or nothing saying.... But I'd have to kill myself if I actually voted for it lol
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Leave thorn alone :/
