I've been studying the Ghost Fragment: Exo 2 Grimoire card and have made some inferences based upon what it reads. I have quoted it below:
[spoiler][quote]Hi. Thanks for your interest. I'm recording this for posterity.
Warlock thanatonauts die and come back with insight. I'm going to attempt the same process to get at buried memories. Specifically, I'm going to fire a charged particle beam at my head and see what comes out. We Exos have been around a very long time. I want to know whats in there.
My Ghost is standing by to repair me.
Okay. Three two one
STAG sierra six SWORD echo nine SERPENT
We are falling into the world. Everyone is on fire. Theres a ship above us but its coming apart like a flower, alloy and fusion flash, pierced through and through.
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The voice says Atmospheric interface. Trajectory normal. Rabid two three you are outside the window. (I think I am the voice)
I can see the whole earth below me and the sky we are falling out of is black without stars.
Ghost, shoot me again.
RAPID four RAMPART four RATCHET tango eight zero
We are on the ice. This is elsewhere and elsewhen. There is a mighty aurora and it is reflected in the ice so I walk between two fires although the one below is cracked and full of corpses. I have and am a weapon.
Up in the sky there is a hole in Jupiter and it tears at me when I look at it. It tears me. It is hungry. Maybe the whole is not in Jupiter but in me.
CROWN castle candor cobalt coral
Ghost bring me back.
serrate sulfur ANATHEMA amber actual aspen
Ghost bring me back now.[/quote][/spoiler]
So what I'm thinking is that maybe towards the beginning is The Collapse or something but after that I don't really have any idea. Towards the end though it seems that thos Exo was on one of Jupiter's moons, I can't remember which he is talking about, and saw something on Jupiter. I think that he must have seen The Hive, or maybe something darker, but what leaves me to believe it was The Hive is those codes in between memories. We know so far that The Hive have some sorts of Gods/Kings and ramparts are walls or defenses on castles. Also it literally says castle...but anyway, both of those are related to a King. One of the codes also says crown, like a King's crown. Oryx, anyone? Another says ratchet, which has the definition "A situation or process that is perceived to be deteriorating or changing steadily in a series of irreversible steps." This could relate to this hole that the Exo mentions, maybe The Hive have changed Jupiter into some sort of main "castle" of sorts where Oryx presides. Lastly, I'd like to bring up how it includes the word anathema. This word, as used in the New Testament, means something dedicated to evil and thus accursed. For me this was the final evidence that leads me to believe that the Hive might have made Jupiter their home and therefore, there may be a chance we could see it as a possible new location in The Taken King. But thats just a theory. [i]A game theory![/i]
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2 RepliesJupiter is a portal to the Oryx's realm? Remember when we went through the big white light at the end of the thrall pit in crotas end? We left the hellmouth, and entered a Hive realm created by Crota. Notice how the thrall pit was dark as ever, but the bridge part and everything past it was well-lit with green skies and strange objects in the distance.
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16 RepliesIsn't Jupiter a gas planet?
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And boys go to Venus to get more penis[spoiler]the good' ol days[/spoiler]
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1 ReplyWell during the shrine of oryx mission, after destroying the shrine dinklebot says something like "they were communicating with something far out in the darkness" just leads me to believe Oryx is farther away than jupiter. But there may be something else on jupiter.
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9 RepliesAnyone else notice the end where he asks the ghost to bring him back multiple times? I think there is either something wrong with the exo or the ghost at the end, causing the Guardian to not be able to be brought back
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1 ReplyEdited by A Little Birdie: 6/5/2015 7:40:59 PMthe exo is on Europa, and while the "hole" in Jupiter MAY be reading too far into it - it's still quite possible there is something on Europa. Go back and look at old concept art and you'll see snowy areas, including a scene that has Jupiter in the background. (Might edit in some links later) http://videogamewriters.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/europa_desktop.jpg -- that being said, IF the red storm on Jupiter holds actual significance, there could be a hive Capitol ship hidden in the storm (using the storms electro magnetic energy to hide). A social area planned in the next dlc is simply called "hive ship" so perhaps we'll be going to Europa next time? It's an interesting theory
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1 ReplyLike someone said, I was thinking the Exo was looking at the Red Spot on Jupiter and feeling empty in his past and his purpose, even more so if you consider this line: [i]'Maybe the hole is not in Jupiter but in me'[/i] It does seem the Exo was on Europa for a purpose, patrolling if you will, and the enemy they were facing is open to speculation.
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2 RepliesEdited by Spaceghost76: 6/5/2015 7:42:42 PMThe hive may be in UrAnus.
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1 ReplyWith these new warlock boots it is now possible to land on Uranus.
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1 ReplyIn the next expansion of 50 dollars lol yeah im not paying shit !!!
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1 ReplyTHE HIVE ARE EVERYWHERE!!!!!!
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1 ReplyVery good insight. I've read this card before and didn't give the hive or Jupiter a second thought. Great job bro
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2 RepliesGreat read, you should join the collective of knowledge, we often discuss lore and you seem to appreciate it much like we do, I've already posted a link to this thread in our chat :)
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1 ReplyHe is on Europa looking up at Jupiter and describing the great red spot, which is a devouring storm. I think you read into it a little too much.
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Deez nuts
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2 RepliesIt's the cryptarch he like come at me *****
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Edited by Jack Reacher: 6/5/2015 4:36:28 AM
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3 RepliesI'm pretty sure that's where they are hiding crota.
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1 ReplyWhat if the Hive Gods are.. the Nine..
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1 ReplyCould be on Europa
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3 RepliesRemember the live reveal for Destiny from a few years back they showed gameplay for when your ship was flying on the rings of Saturn, also the concept art for Europa which is one the moons under the nines control?
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1 ReplyOooooooh! Awesome
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1 ReplyBump because your my clanmate
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2 RepliesSounds like a great theory, it's amazing what people come up with when they actually sit down and read the grimoire.
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1 ReplyBut the hive are inter dimensional beings. Why would Oryx be hanging out in this dimension? Also the fallen make multiple references to past nobility. Also we seem to know the prevalence of the house of Kings and their threat to earth, but we also do not know the whereabouts of their Kell. Perhaps their hesitation and low key activity is indication something is amiss with their leadership.
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