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Edited by NeoReaper82: 6/4/2015 12:46:56 AM
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The 4 problems that plague the Iron Banner(PvP in general)

1: 70% of the damn games I get put into have already started & the enemy doubles the score of the team I was put on. 2: Shotguns and Hand Cannons are out of control. Seriously they need something done to them. 3: Supers also need banned from the Iron banner. It's suppose to be the ultimate test of skill. Not the ultimate freebie kills. 4: The lag The lag The lag

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  • 1. Even tho you might get put into a game losing by a lot, chances are that you have a brand new team capable of overcoming the old winning team even if you still do lose. Still sucks tho 2. As for shotguns, read this [spoiler]https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/127240712/0/0/1[/spoiler]. And the hand cannon is something we all deal with so its either you join them or stop complaining 3. You're seriously a noob if you're complaining about supers. You use a voidwalker goddammit. Some of my greatest super kills have been on my voidwalker, git gud. 4. still loading

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  • Has anybody gotten fire base Delphi or blind watch maps. Because the only Mars map I seem to get is pantheon.

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    • The main problem with pvp is the sheer amount of people whining about other players They use this gun too much - nerf it I don't have thorn and they do - nerf it I got killed by a super - nerf it Their strategy was better than mine - cheats There are your 4 biggest problems with pvp From a terrible pvp player that has no issue with others using whatever tactics and guns they like

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    • Other than number 3 totally valid supers are part of the game though man

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    • This Iron Banner started out great for me and my mate and we were really enjoying it. However, as the IB has gone on it has gotten more and more infuriating, and it is now both no longer fun and also is putting us off playing Destiny. The number one reason for this is shotguns, everyone and their pet dog seems to use them. I can't tell how many times I've unloaded on an enemy only for them to one shot me with a shotgun before I can finish them. It takes zero skill and the vast majority of the time you need only be in range and your guaranteed a kill. Its so frustrating and it's driving us to the edge. We both love this game but the frustration we are experiencing in the IB ain't fun and it's really ruining the game. Shotguns are ruining the PvP elements of the game for us. And for the record, we are both almost certainly average or worse players, but we usually get through with a bit of hard work. But this is breaking us.

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      • 1 and 4 are very true but 2 and 3 are just your complaints and supers being banned??? That's dumber than telling a fish it can breathe without being in the water.

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      • How about remove the fukin radar! Other then that its allright

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        • I understand problems 1 and 2. I have experienced no major lag whatsoever. Supers are a part of the game. Playing with them and around them DOES take skill. Killing an enemy with golden gun or avoiding an arc blade or fist of havoc and killing the enemy is a test of skill.

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        • People also complain about: -Thorn in crucible -Gjallarhorn in crucible -Not having Gjallarhorn -Suros being overpowered -Suros needing a re-buff -Vex being overpowered -Vex needing a re-buff -Fist of Havoc -Scorch Melee -Bladedancer -Golden Gun -Voidwalkers super -Titan's grenades -Helm of Saint-14 & Bubble combo -Warlocks fusion grenades -Any grenade that existed rather -Felwinters lie -Shotguns in general -Crota being broken -No vault space -Rockets in crucible -Lmgs in crucible -Heavy ammo being too constant in crucible -Heavy ammo being too few in crucible -Special ammo being too few in crucible -Special ammo being too plenty in crucible -Bloom in crucible -Camping in crucible -Others being better than them in crucible -Others being worse than them in crucible -AFK-ers (granted that's worth a complaint) -The loot system -Getting a really good weapon meanwhile they wanted a No Land Beyond because it's the only exotic they need. -No Land Beyond being the worst weapon ever. -When killed by No Land Beyond they complain -Going invisible as a hunter in general -Blink jumping as hunter/warlock -Blink shotgunning -Titans jumping higher than hunters -Titans not having enough health because they're the tank class. -Warlocks need protection as they self-res -There not being bumpers on the edges of crucible maps because they walk off too often -Snipers in crucible -The Last Word being overpowered in crucible -Red Death being overpowered in crucible -Stranger's rifle being too overpowered in crucible -Any pulse rifle in crucible being too overpowered -Xur selling something good -Xur selling something bad -Xurning vs Earning -Nechrochasm needing a buff -Auto Rifles needing a nerf -Auto rifles needing a buff -Thorn's exotic bounty being too hard to try and work towards -Master Rahool not giving them everything they ever wanted in life -Eris in general -Kill target public events being too hard -Heavy ammo glitch being used at crota -Heavy ammo glitch not being used at crota -Map rotation -Iron Banner armor being lvl 32 even though they never do it because it requires much more time and effort and skill to get compared to a raid. -Nightfall rewards being terrible -Complain about the modifiers in the Nightfalls making the nightfall what its supposed to be. A challenge. -Error codes (Yes they are annoying but it is something people complain about so it fits in this list) -Confluxes in Vault of Glass being too hard -Hobgoblins in general -Raid Sparrows not being cool enough to be a raid sparrow -The recruitment section only asking for 32's with gjallarhorn (yes that is a stupid requirement but once again people complain) -Omnigul's strike -Omnigul's scream -Cheating a piece of a raid -Not cheating a piece of a raid -There not being a trading system -Fatebringer being too overpowered in general so it should stay at 300 -Fatebringer needing to be upgraded to 365 -Crucible being stupid in general -Titan Bubbles being overpowered -Shoulder Charge in crucible -No raid being in HoW DLC. -Upon HoW dropping someone else has stated that the new exotic armor sets will cause more complaints as to each character will get buffs and make their class more powerful. -Guardian armor looking the same at lvl 32 (HoW will change all of that yayyy!) -Complaints about people complaining. (I'm not complaining Lol just making a list for people's enjoyment.) -People capturing closest point at the start of a control match. (Occurred a lot on the forums during last Iron Banner) -Orbit taking too long -The younger ages (squeakers as it's called)playing Destiny -No trading system -The apparent 19% of those who've played Destiny on the PlayStation completing a raid -Not having a helmet in tower -Having a helmet in tower (even though it's optional) -Being unable to change a characters appearance after creating their character -Bungie fixing Iron Banner Glitch (buying items at start of Iron Banner) -Bounty for killing 2 targets with a fusion rifle burst 20 times -Trying to send an invite to someone with an extremely long/crazy "xXSo0purxC0o1kiDXx"(made up Lol) after posting an LFG -When you post on LFG, " Send message in game to xXSo0purxC0o1liDXx for invite and they reply to your post on the forums instead -Blues from legendary engrams, shards and energies from legendary engramarhorn -Suros being overpowered -Suros needing a re-buff -Vex being overpowered -Vex needing a re-buff -Fist of Havoc -Scorch Melee -Bladedancer -Golden Gun -Voidwalkers super -Titan's grenades -Helm of Saint-14 & Bubble combo -Warlocks fusion grenades -Any grenade that existed rather -Felwinters lie -Shotguns in general -Crota being broken -No vault space -Rockets in crucible -Lmgs in crucible -Heavy ammo being too constant in crucible -Heavy ammo being too few in crucible -Special ammo being too few in crucible -Special ammo being too plenty in crucible -Bloom in crucible -Camping in crucible -Others being better than them in crucible -Others being worse than them in crucible -AFK-ers (granted that's worth a complaint) -The loot system -Getting a really good weapon meanwhile they wanted a No Land Beyond because it's the only exotic they need. -No Land Beyond being the worst weapon ever. -When killed by No Land Beyond they complain -Going invisible as a hunter in general -Blink jumping as hunter/warlock -Blink shotgunning -Titans jumping higher than hunters -Titans not having enough health because they're the tank class. -Warlocks need protection as they self-res -There not being bumpers on the edges of crucible maps because they walk off too often -Snipers in crucible -The Last Word being overpowered in crucible -Red Death being overpowered in crucible -Stranger's rifle being too overpowered in crucible -Any pulse rifle in crucible being too overpowered -Xur selling something good -Xur selling something bad -Xurning vs Earning -Nechrochasm needing a buff -Auto Rifles needing a nerf -Auto rifles needing a buff -Thorn's exotic bounty being too hard to try and work towards -Master Rahool not giving them everything they ever wanted in life -Eris in general -Kill target public events being too hard -Heavy ammo glitch being used at crota -Heavy ammo glitch not being used at crota -Map rotation -Iron Banner armor being lvl 32 even though they never do it because it requires much more time and effort and skill to get compared to a raid. -Nightfall rewards being terrible -Complain about the modifiers in the Nightfalls making the nightfall what its supposed to be. A challenge. -Error codes (Yes they are annoying but it is something people complain about so it fits in this list) -Confluxes in Vault of Glass being too hard -Hobgoblins in general -Raid Sparrows not being cool enough to be a raid sparrow -The recruitment section only asking for 32's with gjallarhorn (yes that is a stupid requirement but once again people complain) -Omnigul's strike -Omnigul's scream -Cheating a piece of a raid -Not cheating a piece of a raid -There not being a trading system -Fatebringer being too overpowered in general so it should stay at 300 -Fatebringer needing to be upgraded to 365 -Crucible being stupid in general -Titan Bubbles being overpowered -Shoulder Charge in crucible -No raid being in HoW DLC. -Upon HoW dropping someone else has stated that the new exotic armor sets will cause more complaints as to each character will get buffs and make their class more powerful. -Guardian armor looking the same at lvl 32 (HoW will change all of that yayyy!) -Complaints about people complaining. (I'm not complaining Lol just making a list for people's enjoyment.) -People capturing closest point at the start of a control match. (Occurred a lot on the forums during last Iron Banner) -Orbit taking too long -The younger ages (squeakers as it's called)playing Destiny -No trading system -The apparent 19% of those who've played Destiny on the PlayStation completing a raid -Not having a helmet in tower -Having a helmet in tower (even though it's optional) -Being unable to change a characters appearance after creating their character -Bungie fixing Iron Banner Glitch (buying items at start of Iron Banner) -Bounty for killing 2 targets with a fusion rifle burst 20 times -Trying to send an invite to someone with an extremely long/crazy "xXSo0purxC0o1kiDXx"(made up Lol) after posting an LFG -When you post on LFG, " Send message in game to xXSo0purxC0o1liDXx for invite and they reply to your post on the forums instead -Blues from legendary engrams, shards and energies from legendary engram -PoE 32 is much to hard! -PoE 34 is way to hard! -PoE 35 is insane to hard! -No checkpoints in POE? -Dismantling 365 weapons = motes of lights!? -Etheric light is too rare on pve -Etheric light is too easy for pvp players - PoE helmet before legs is unfair to warlock! -Treasure keys r too rare to get! -Treasure keys after update are too easy to get! -Lvl 34's are too OP in iron banner.

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          • 5. Teammates pushing you out of cover back into enemy fire

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          • I don't know why they won't make it clash every once in a while.

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            • had more fun using TLW. Havent used a shotty yet.

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            • For number 1 they should put a button in your config that says whether you are okay with being dropped in a match or not. Because this is really getting on my nerves. I can't rank up if I'm dropped in a match where the other team automatically wins the second I drop in.

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            • Agree with number 1. I hate getting dropped into a match already going. Most of the time it means a loss and a medal to trade in in the next match.

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            • Edited by Beeburrito: 6/5/2015 1:45:29 AM
              Hand cannons are not out of control. I see all the weapon types except for ARs in there.

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              • Dying and getting killed by enemy players.. Bungie should nerf that... If I shoot them they should die and they shouldn't be able to shoot back and kill me. #satire

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              • 1. Its control which requires a team 2. Shotguns 3. Everything else

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              • No more needs more buffs

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              • 1. That's a bunch of BS! 2. IF you can't beat em, join them! 3. Some supers require skill to use, like Golden Gun! 4. This one I agree with you on!

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                • This is somewhat related to the being put into games in progress problem After standard matchmaking I think the game should set the teams fairly like a fireteam of 2 vs a fireteam of 2 or the guy who went 22-4 last game gets put on a team with the guy who went 4-22 etc Maybe even make it a part of the actual matchmaking(prioritized AFTER connections) so fireteams get matched against fireteams(2s get matched against 2s with 8 randoms, a 4 gets matched against a 2 and 2 with 4 randoms, a team of 6 is matched against a team of 3 and 3 etc) I guess in a way this punishes people for playing in a team but on the other hand fair teams usually make more interesting games and people are less likely to leave if they arent losing by 10k points

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                • The actual real 4 problems are: 1.) Lag 2.) Lag 3.) Crap P2P networking system in the year 2015 with no matchmaking filters at all 4.) Even more lag

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                  • It should take a medallion if you leave a match!

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                    • Top 4 problems with OP -He's a scrub -He's a scrub -He's a scrub [spoiler]-He's a scrub[/spoiler]

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                      • Legendary hand cannons are fine. Exotics like thorn and last word need a nerf. Why is suros so bad now? I have thorn and last word but refuse to use them because I'm over the age of 12 and not a little bitch.

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                        • Easy solution for a ton of the problems, remove the Auto rifle nerf. So many people will run back to SUROS regime and the vintage V8/Shadow price.

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                          • If you want something done about shotguns and hand cannons...give power back to auto rifles. Or get dirty and use the same load out as those killing you.

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