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Edited by Aeon:
6/2/2015 9:43:36 PM
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How to make PvP "balanced"
Last Word: reduce base damage to 45 per body shot and headshot damage to 60 while in ADS and fix precision damage glitch. HipFire mode stats stay the same
Thorn: reduce rate of fire and keep it 2 headshot kill or reduce base damage to 50 and headshot damage to 75 so no more 2 shot but leaves target one shot.
All Handcannons: reduce stagger caused by being shot by one so other guns have a increased chance to keep hitting shots while in gunfights against them.
Vex Mytho: Reduce headshot damage to 37
Auto Rifles: Eliminate all nerfs made to them in patch 1.1.1 and for pve make them like day one
Pulse Rifles:Do not need any changes and are healthy for the meta as they stand
Scout Rifles: Do not need any buffs they are good in the right hands and if buffed they would become unhealthy for the meta
With these changes in place Auto Rifles and Pulse rifles would have similar #s but pulses would reign supreme in medium to long range while autos would reign in medium to short ranges. Handcannons would stay the same but the exotics would become harder to use but will reward true masters of that gun. Scouts reign supreme in long range and can be used in medium range as well.
That is my idea of a healthy meta.
Feel free to reply and add your thoughts in.
[spoiler]I play on the xbox 1 so I cannot offer an opinion over hawkmoon at this time.[/spoiler]
[spoiler]Auto Rifles before 1.1.1 are after they got nerfed from their day one status so with my proposal they won't be op[/spoiler]
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5 Replies
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1 ReplyThese nerfs will not make you better at pvp. It will just jack up the game even more. Due to you idiots an entire weapon type, assault rifles, is no longer used in both pvp and pve.
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2 RepliesHow about you leave the -blam!-ing vex alone. They've finally gotten it to where it isn't op and isn't a piece of shit... People how bitch about it now have no memory of what it was before first nerf
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Deez nuts
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Don t forget all weapons have perks etc so balancing isn t easy and nerfing one perk can have an effect on loads of weapons . For example judgement shotty with right roll can go from no range to loads of range , making it good and like I said before exotics are ment to be good other wise pointless having them. So have another think maybe u should campaign for exotic s to go . From what I have seen lately a lot of hate has come from the thorn standing point cause a lot of those people don t have it . As for auto rifles that's a spray and keep your finger on it .
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1 ReplyNo more nerfs
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1 ReplyBad ideas. Buff auto rifle to day one and nerf hand cannons!? Your crazy guy. There's no way bungie will put suros back to what it was
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Sounds good. [spoiler] autos I would really like to see more in pvp [/spoiler]
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1 ReplyEdited by clvlnd2379: 6/2/2015 7:21:45 AMTheere are only 3 nerfs that need to take place. I am not crying either I have gone 9- 0 on all characters. 1- Final round needs to be removed from all weapons. Takes no skill to prime a weapon to use final round. 2- Thorn DOT needs to be cut in half. Takes no skill to land two shots and run away. 3- Hawkmoon lucky bullets need to be spread every 3. Seems like they stack into 1 bullet occasionally making it a 1 shot weapon. Does not happen often but it does happen. Everything else is fine as is. Grenades can be avoided, supers can be countered, and shotguns can be beat at range. The game should skill be based and those nerfs should make it more balanced and bring more skill back into the game. Just my opinion.
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3 RepliesIn fact if u nerf thorn , red death will be op .and u would be creating a topic about nerfing that.
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4 RepliesExotic s are ment to be better than legendary s they don t need nerfing. What they need is crybabys need nerfing . Last word needs a bit of skill to use . As it is a required to make it work correctly . Thorn is fine the poison buff is ment to be there and can be out gunned easy . Can all the cry babies get a grip plz exotic s should be more powerful then legendaries stop posting threads like this cause, if they get nerfed a few weeks later you will be crying about another gun that has taken its place .
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1 ReplyIs this just for the PvP side of the game?
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People keep saying auto rifles are useless but i disagree. They aren't useless and can be pretty good with a bit of persistence, i get that it can be outgunned but if you're hitting the target nothing else has the same RoF other than the mythoclast and can be pretty effective.
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2 RepliesDamn. Shame, only 1 of those are actually needed. All others are just trolling. Auto rifles are the only thing that need to be fixed. That would balance everything else
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3 RepliesEdited by SpaceJam: 6/2/2015 4:31:05 AMI dig it, maybe a little buff to auto rifles but day one was too strong. Thats all people used, maybe day one damage but limit on range?
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1 ReplyMaybe not a full reversal of the auto nerf, just somewhere in between. I don't want suros to become king of crucible again.
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10 RepliesI think all this game needs is auto rifle buff, and a thorn nerf. I think a fair nerf is to remove the burn off the player once the thorn user dies. That way you can't just run into a room full of people, 2 shot someone, and die knowing you're about to get a postmortem
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1 ReplyEdited by Jetstream Cheems: 6/2/2015 4:08:28 AMReally good ideas, but a buddy's stated that Thorn's DoT should be shifted to only activating on a crit, forcing you to be good with the weapon
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1 ReplyHandcannons are the best guns pvp and pve wise imo and it's not even that close. The red death is good otherwise if your not using a hand cannon you will loose to a player using one who is of similar skill.
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4 RepliesOr how about this, instead on buffing and nerfing weapons just revamp standard pvp and ToO to set load outs with special and heavy weapons spawning randomly. Leave IB as is it is a bring your big boy pants mode. Now we no longer have the constant bitching about this weapon or that weapon and adjustments in pvp do not hit weapons in PvE.
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1 ReplyNot sure why the vex needs to be changed.
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2 RepliesEdited by jtj99: 6/2/2015 3:59:19 AMBuff the no land beyond and make it where it has less time taken between rounds to a 3/4 of a second and make it accurate Because it's a pretty cool gun [spoiler]make it more useable [/spoiler]
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11 RepliesTo be fair, not only myself...but I hope that either everyone or most people disagree with you. Your opinion is appreciated yet, Nerfers like yourself merely RUIN the game either short term or long term.
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Just bring up the autos again.
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1 ReplyCan't we just throw rocks then?
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34 RepliesHey everybody, let's make everything suck and over power auto rifles again so nothing can compete again. Yeah, no.
