So, if I understand correctly: Motes, seemingly the most valuable commodity, buy lottary tickets and banners (both at significant coin) but not weapons, armor or upgrades? The only way to now acquire upgrade materials is through 'end game' activities - requiring a prebuilt team? However, we can individually acquire one exotic per week (per character) with one round of easy PoE? Yet it takes four rounds (or two weeks assuming one character) of - team asembled - advanced and very hard PoE to upgrade - one - character's armor? The last one assumes we have keys, which require exhaustive farming with little chance of drop? Old upgrade mats (radients and ascendents) are useless and there's no way to fully (or even partially) upgrade older/ incomplete gear? Old and very old gear drops constantly but can only be sharded for resources we all have an abundance of? We can only have a week's worth of marks and one vendor that uses them? We must play PvP to access the 3 faction vendors? We cannot dispose of 'useless' items; like ammo synths, unless we spend two hours consuming each stack? Public events earn you, well... Nothing worthwhile. And meanwhile, our characters and vault overflow with many different but largely unexchangable currencies and resources? Does this seem like a brilliant social experiment or a Marx Brother's movie? ---------------------------------------------- Personal note: I've enjoyed Destiny and almost certainly spent more time on it than any other game I can recall. That said, I can predict with a fair degree of confidence that; unreformed, this 10 yr experiment doesn't have 18 months of legs on it. It will be dead by Christmas with a corporate hostility unrivaled in history.