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Edited by ARKHITEKTON: 5/18/2015 1:24:15 PM
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Golden gun with new helm does more damage than...

Ghorn 7 ghorn shots does 37000 damage and the gg with celestial nighthawk dies 35000 damage with one shot goodbye atheon Edit: My math was wrong the first time one shot does 21000 damage but over all you can use your suoer about 4 times in one times vengence
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  • Forgot who to credit this to but I found it yesterday. Explains why people are so excited. During heroics, nightfalls, and anything else which may have solar modifiers, it will be epic. [quote]Golden Gun DMG= 5702 ×6 from C NH ×3 from Solar Burn =102636 DMG Ghorn on solar Burn= 24549 DMG That's 4.18× damage Edit: Oh yeah, plus Weapons of light. Which would bring it up to 136506 DMG. Against Ghorn's 32651. Edit 2: Also, being a higher light level increases super damage, so it might be even more than this. To put in perspective how much more DMG, before the TDB, GG did about 3k damage. With it now being 5k, we can expect it to go up to 7k, bc the difference between 30 and 32 is the same as the difference between 32 and 34 So 7000 ×6 from C NH ×3 from Solar Burn ×1.33 from weapons of light = 167580 DMG No idea how this will compare to 365 gjally...[/quote]

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    • Edited by generic_name_415: 5/18/2015 5:05:41 PM
      Icebreaker does 14,xxx per crit hit and it is possible to land 7 of those, switch to heavy and empty it, and still have TWO MORE chances at Icebreaker shots. that's a possible 9 x 14,xxx damage from the Icebreaker alone WITHOUT weapons of light. with you're looking at 9 x 19,xxx. why anyone does anything other than this baffles me, unless you're experimenting edit - landing crits with Black Hammer over and over is also great

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      • I personally don't run raids on normal anymore, it's really not even a consideration for most people, but it seems theres always confusion in these kill Atheon/best load-out posts. Normal mode Atheon could probably get killed on one teleport by a good team using TDB rare weapons. As long as most or all of a team us either using rockets or sniper/machine guns then there is no issue. Ever. The only issue on Atheon is the guy using The Last Word because its his best weapon (insert whatever the dumbest thing you've seen is).

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        • I've hated how useless GG is against bosses. Not anymore.

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          • I wonder if you could take down crota's shield?

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            • Finally. Hunters might be usefully in PvE

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            • Damn

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            • Even with double damage, it's not worth using on atheon. primaries will do more dps.

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            • To get an idea of what it'll do, use your golden gun on a boss, hit him with all three shots. It'll be twice that damage. Yes, it'll be awesome that GG will be more effective against majors but you're blowing this out of proportion

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            • Gjallahorn or any other rocket on Aetheon just makes him move around too much... Same goes for grenades... Veterans like myself who play "boring" yet "effective", use snipers, primaries and machine guns on aetheon so he stays in one place and we can kill aetheon in one run. 5 black hammer snipers with weapons of light will melt aetheon quick... Your welcome...

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              • [quote]Ghorn 7 ghorn shots does 37000 damage and the gg with celestial nighthawk dies 35000 damage with one shot goodbye atheon Edit: My math was wrong the first time one shot does 21000 damage but over all you can use your suoer about 4 times in one times vengence[/quote] Celestial Nighthawk replaces 3 GG shots with 1. Since GG is unaffected by Times Vengeance and only does 1200 damage per shot without, with will be does roughly 7200 damage per shot. 4 x 7200 28800 damage per cycle. Black Hammer does 18,000 per shot without WOL. Dealing easily 10 shots means at least 180000 per cycle. Your data is wrong. Please fix. Edit: With Ghorn doing 22k x 7 per run that is 154000 per person per run. X 5 people that is 770,000 per run minimum. GG can do a maximum of 144,000 per run with 5 people. Do the math, GG will be very useful in Solar Burn (it already is...), but not against Atheon.

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              • New helmet only lets you use one shot but you could probably use it 4 times but we will see when it drops...

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                • 3 hunters + nighthawk + solar burn + golden gun= fastest death ever? 6x4x3 a normal golden gun bullet that's like 12 ghorns from 3 guys..

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                  • For whatever reason, OP thinks 35 > 37

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                    • I can't wait to try this out... Weapons of Light won't improve Golden Gun but your super fills extremely fast during Times Vengeance so even though it drops your shot to one it will refill again 2,3,4 shots... 6 x damage, one teleport Atheon here we come!

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                      • Damn...

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                      • Is it possible to use 3 gg shots with symbiote and than change the helmet and still get one shot with 6x the damage?

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                        • What math do you use to get 35k? Golden gun does less than 2k on atheon. Therefore golden gun with celestial nighthawk will be no more than 12k. Still better to use fatebringer

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                          • Golden gun takes too long to activate

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                            • Pretty sure time's vengance doesn't buff supers. Just makes you get them back instantly.

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                              • Teams full of hunters wrecking everything woooooop

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                                • -blam!-ibg retards dont use supers on atheon -blam!-

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                                  • ghorn does over 20k per shot with improved wol during times vengeance. ghorn would still win even if supers were affected by times vengeance due to activation time. /thread

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                                    • In other words, it can 1-shot Omnigul with Solar burn?

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                                      • I can dig it.

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                                      • Gg on hm atheon does like 1200 damage. So that makes it around 7200 per shot.. A sniper with titan bubble does around 18k per shot.

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